Political thoughts

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:I"VE BEEN LEFT AGAIN!!!

Jeez lady calm down I was typing.

DON'T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN!!!!
-goes to emo corner and plays DS-

Nuuuu!!! Out of the emo corner! Either that or make room for me!!!! -scootches over and reads book-

THIS IS MY EMO CORNER!!!
gET OUT OR WON'T GIVE YOU A COOKIE!!

But...but... I like the cookie....

-Slaps hand over head- i think i hear my mum calling, i will be right back.

-sniff- You hit me you meanie.

...Butthead. JUST KIDDING DON'T KICK ME WITH YOUR GOOD LEG! o.o

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

Mhm. He was a brat though.

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:KashiHat: ha ha yeah I know that feeling. And no problemo buddeh!

Q: She's a girl dude.

Q again: Well still, you don't know what it's like to be president of the most powerful country do you? Hm? Yes you have to have first hand experience to know that true feeling, that's just how it goes.

And as for emotions, because I CARE about people in Iraq who are getting killed for no reason. INNOCENT BYSTANDERS Q ARE GETTING KILLED IN IRAQ BY OUR BOMBS AND YOU EXPECT A HUMANITARIAN LIKE ME TO SIT AROUND AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? Sorry, had to get that out.

And while we're on the topic of genocide, while we're splundering our money making weapons for a war, why aren't we helping other countries slightly? Hm? I mean, Bill Gates and Fall Out Boy have the right idea for donating their money. Why was it that the government didn't bat an eye about the Holocaust before Pearl Harbour was bombed, huh?

Okay sorry that was irrevelant beyond belief. My bad, i got fired up.

Actually, that is incorrect. Do you know who's bombs that are killing these innocent bystanders? Terrorists. It has been several years since many bombs have been laid on a city. And even then, casualties of innocents was lower than in any war of this scale in history. But as of late, as in the past 5 years, almost all casualties by bombs have come from one group. Terrorists. If we left, a genocide would have occurred. Would a humanitarian such as yourself preferred a genocide to stopping terrorists? I don't know. I for one think that it is a good thing we stopped a genocide. You can make your own call.

I have no idea why Franklin D. Roosevelt ignored the Holocaust. Here is a question. Do you think killing of millions of people for no reason is bad? Do you? Did you know that Saddam Hussein gassed over a million of his own people, for no reason, by dropping deadly biological weapons on him. Are you aware that the country that stopped this, was America? If you are against the gassing of millions of jews, then surely the gassing of a million kurds by Saddam Hussein you would, as a humanitarian, find absolutely repulsive. Well, thanks to America, this was ended, and for the first time in who knows how long the Iraqi people have a right to speak in their government. You know that principle of "Rule for the people, by the people"? Well, now Iraqis enjoy these same freedoms. Who can they, and do they thank for that? America. And why? Because we didn't pull out troops when things got difficult but stayed and secured the country.

And do you know what President gave the most to AIDS research? President Bush is the correct answer. African countries got 5 times more AIDS relief during his presidency. Didn't you say you wanted us to help more countries? Isn't that exactly what you wanted.

But on the note of President Obama, he has a half brother in Kenya. And guess what? He is starving to death. No aid, not even for his own half brother. Change we can believe in.

Always-Abby wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

Mhm. He was a brat though.

He was, he's not so bad anymore (talks to him on another site). Even though he's a good friend of mine, he was definetly a bit out of line.

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

PeinQ we are now no longer talking.

That was a completely, unbelievably different situation and after as many debates as we have had and how I have never threatened to even delete a post of yours, and as tolerant as WOTN is, I am overwhelmingly insulted you'd say that.

[quote="KakashiHatake_roxs"]

quater wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:Just a simple wonderment caused Q to say Obama is like a rock star in the sense that he was elected by popularity and saying that the stock market has been in the toilet since he was elected.

Which isn't true it was suckish long before that.

i agree that the stock market has been suckish long before Obama became president. My Dad is a stock holder or what eva, and he has lost some money in the stocks way before the election.

Right! See, just because Obama was elected at a bad time does NOT make it his fault.

YESSSSSHH!!!
Obama is the greatest president the U.S.A. could ever have. If Macann (Or however you spell his first name) was elected, it would basically be Bush for a third 4-year period!

-bows- You have real guts to say that buddeh. Q will have your head when he realizes it

But I do agree with you, really I do. My favorite president still stands as JFK, but Obama is right up there with Clinton.

Why would I say anything to this guy? I don't talk to idiots.

FYI: i am a gal!!!
and second!!: I am not an idiot, and you better be carful what you say about me, just ask Pein.[/quot

Cool.

I think I'll be alright.

you didn't ask Pein, did you?
Pein, would you like to explain to the soon to be killed Kage what happens when i am mad?

Right. Well, I'll let you know that as scared as I am, I am sure I'll be alright.

^_^ We can still be friends, neh?

Wait, What did i miss? -eats a strawberry-

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

Mhm. He was a brat though.

He was, he's not so bad anymore (talks to him on another site). Even though he's a good friend of mine, he was definetly a bit out of line.

Well, that's good. And yeah, he really was.
Well, I'm gonna go. C'ya

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:KashiHat: ha ha yeah I know that feeling. And no problemo buddeh!

Q: She's a girl dude.

Q again: Well still, you don't know what it's like to be president of the most powerful country do you? Hm? Yes you have to have first hand experience to know that true feeling, that's just how it goes.

And as for emotions, because I CARE about people in Iraq who are getting killed for no reason. INNOCENT BYSTANDERS Q ARE GETTING KILLED IN IRAQ BY OUR BOMBS AND YOU EXPECT A HUMANITARIAN LIKE ME TO SIT AROUND AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? Sorry, had to get that out.

And while we're on the topic of genocide, while we're splundering our money making weapons for a war, why aren't we helping other countries slightly? Hm? I mean, Bill Gates and Fall Out Boy have the right idea for donating their money. Why was it that the government didn't bat an eye about the Holocaust before Pearl Harbour was bombed, huh?

Okay sorry that was irrevelant beyond belief. My bad, i got fired up.

Actually, that is incorrect. Do you know who's bombs that are killing these innocent bystanders? Terrorists. It has been several years since many bombs have been laid on a city. And even then, casualties of innocents was lower than in any war of this scale in history. But as of late, as in the past 5 years, almost all casualties by bombs have come from one group. Terrorists. If we left, a genocide would have occurred. Would a humanitarian such as yourself preferred a genocide to stopping terrorists? I don't know. I for one think that it is a good thing we stopped a genocide. You can make your own call.

I have no idea why Franklin D. Roosevelt ignored the Holocaust. Here is a question. Do you think killing of millions of people for no reason is bad? Do you? Did you know that Saddam Hussein gassed over a million of his own people, for no reason, by dropping deadly biological weapons on him. Are you aware that the country that stopped this, was America? If you are against the gassing of millions of jews, then surely the gassing of a million kurds by Saddam Hussein you would, as a humanitarian, find absolutely repulsive. Well, thanks to America, this was ended, and for the first time in who knows how long the Iraqi people have a right to speak in their government. You know that principle of "Rule for the people, by the people"? Well, now Iraqis enjoy these same freedoms. Who can they, and do they thank for that? America. And why? Because we didn't pull out troops when things got difficult but stayed and secured the country.

And do you know what President gave the most to AIDS research? President Bush is the correct answer. African countries got 5 times more AIDS relief during his presidency. Didn't you say you wanted us to help more countries? Isn't that exactly what you wanted.

But on the note of President Obama, he has a half brother in Kenya. And guess what? He is starving to death. No aid, not even for his own half brother. Change we can believe in.

So what if he did? This isn't about Bush. And I do find it absolutely REPULSIVE that people were (and still are) being slain because of their race and because of greed around the world. It sickens me. It sickens me how evil people have become, and I want to do something about it. But why didn't we leave after it was secured, hm? So, why is he giving money that WE DON'T HAVE to AIDS research? We've been in the red for YEARS Q, and Bush didn't change that. In fact, I think we were in the black once for like a week back when Clinton was president. But don't go by me coz I don't know for sure. And it's exactly what I want. I want peace in troubled countries. Did you know that when Sierra Leone was in a civil war over diamonds that the diamond companies didn't do anything? I don't even think any country did anything until they realized that people were dying. Humans have been overcome with money and greed. This isn't what we were intended for.

But whatever, I'm fighting a losing battle. I'm gonna shut up now.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHhh!!!!!!!!!! i am out of the loop once again!!!!

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

PeinQ we are now no longer talking.

That was a completely, unbelievably different situation and after as many debates as we have had and how I have never threatened to even delete a post of yours, and as tolerant as WOTN is, I am overwhelmingly insulted you'd say that.

WTH Q that wasn't even relevant! I was in fact saying that you were a nice guy. I just mentioned that i have seen someone get banned before because of a threat to a kage. You misunderstood me. i never said you did threaten to ban me, I just said that I was still here, so obviously you had never threatened to ban me or whatever.

But listen, if I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.

Hello???? -pulls Ds out and plays Jessie's Girl on the Gutiar Hero game.-

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHhh!!!!!!!!!! i am out of the loop once again!!!!

You haven't missed much. -sigh- Somehow or another I managed to piss off a kage (well offend him) and that was NOT my intention. -sigh-

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

PeinQ we are now no longer talking.

That was a completely, unbelievably different situation and after as many debates as we have had and how I have never threatened to even delete a post of yours, and as tolerant as WOTN is, I am overwhelmingly insulted you'd say that.

WTH Q that wasn't even relevant! I was in fact saying that you were a nice guy. I just mentioned that i have seen someone get banned before because of a threat to a kage. You misunderstood me. i never said you did threaten to ban me, I just said that I was still here, so obviously you had never threatened to ban me or whatever.

But listen, if I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.

It looked by the way you said it "Df got banned" who I banned for a loooot of reasons, including ignoring several warnings. And you implied that due to some threat, I was gonna ban Kakashirox. Uncool.

[quote="quater"][quote="PeinQAkatsuki"][quote="quater"][quote="PeinQAkatsuki"][quote="Always-Abby"]-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-[/quote]
Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember??? [/quote]

PeinQ we are now no longer talking.

That was a completely, unbelievably different situation and after as many debates as we have had and how I have never threatened to even delete a post of yours, and as tolerant as WOTN is, I am overwhelmingly insulted you'd say that.[/quote]
WTH Q that wasn't even relevant! I was in fact saying that you were a nice guy. I just mentioned that i have seen someone get banned before because of a threat to a kage. You misunderstood me. i never said you did threaten to ban me, I just said that I was still here, so obviously you had never threatened to ban me or whatever.

But listen, if I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.[/quote]

It looked by the way you said it "Df got banned" who I banned for a loooot of reasons, including ignoring several warnings. And you implied that due to some threat, I was gonna ban Kakashirox. Uncool.[/quote]

WIAT!!! BACK IT UP!!! I was going to get banned? but i love this site!!

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

PeinQ we are now no longer talking.

That was a completely, unbelievably different situation and after as many debates as we have had and how I have never threatened to even delete a post of yours, and as tolerant as WOTN is, I am overwhelmingly insulted you'd say that.

WTH Q that wasn't even relevant! I was in fact saying that you were a nice guy. I just mentioned that i have seen someone get banned before because of a threat to a kage. You misunderstood me. i never said you did threaten to ban me, I just said that I was still here, so obviously you had never threatened to ban me or whatever.

But listen, if I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.

It looked by the way you said it "Df got banned" who I banned for a loooot of reasons, including ignoring several warnings. And you implied that due to some threat, I was gonna ban Kakashirox. Uncool.

I was just telling her that threatening a kage turned out bad before, and I didn't want that to happen to her. Really Q, I called you a nice guy before that if you hadn't noticed. But whatever. If it really offended you, I'm deeply sorry. It wasn't my intention.

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

PeinQ we are now no longer talking.

That was a completely, unbelievably different situation and after as many debates as we have had and how I have never threatened to even delete a post of yours, and as tolerant as WOTN is, I am overwhelmingly insulted you'd say that.

WTH Q that wasn't even relevant! I was in fact saying that you were a nice guy. I just mentioned that i have seen someone get banned before because of a threat to a kage. You misunderstood me. i never said you did threaten to ban me, I just said that I was still here, so obviously you had never threatened to ban me or whatever.

But listen, if I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.

It looked by the way you said it "Df got banned" who I banned for a loooot of reasons, including ignoring several warnings. And you implied that due to some threat, I was gonna ban Kakashirox. Uncool.

WIAT!!! BAKC IT UP!!! I was going to get banned? but i love this site!!

No Kashihat, I was just saying that DF got banned for threatening a kage a while back and I didn't want that happening to you. You weren't gonna get banned.

Jeez did everyone miss that post that I said that Q is a nice guy and doesn't like to ban people?????

I did read it, but you know me, i forget easily. -_-'

KashiHat: Well okay you get a cookie coz you actually saw it.

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:KashiHat: ha ha yeah I know that feeling. And no problemo buddeh!

Q: She's a girl dude.

Q again: Well still, you don't know what it's like to be president of the most powerful country do you? Hm? Yes you have to have first hand experience to know that true feeling, that's just how it goes.

And as for emotions, because I CARE about people in Iraq who are getting killed for no reason. INNOCENT BYSTANDERS Q ARE GETTING KILLED IN IRAQ BY OUR BOMBS AND YOU EXPECT A HUMANITARIAN LIKE ME TO SIT AROUND AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? Sorry, had to get that out.

And while we're on the topic of genocide, while we're splundering our money making weapons for a war, why aren't we helping other countries slightly? Hm? I mean, Bill Gates and Fall Out Boy have the right idea for donating their money. Why was it that the government didn't bat an eye about the Holocaust before Pearl Harbour was bombed, huh?

Okay sorry that was irrevelant beyond belief. My bad, i got fired up.

Actually, that is incorrect. Do you know who's bombs that are killing these innocent bystanders? Terrorists. It has been several years since many bombs have been laid on a city. And even then, casualties of innocents was lower than in any war of this scale in history. But as of late, as in the past 5 years, almost all casualties by bombs have come from one group. Terrorists. If we left, a genocide would have occurred. Would a humanitarian such as yourself preferred a genocide to stopping terrorists? I don't know. I for one think that it is a good thing we stopped a genocide. You can make your own call.

I have no idea why Franklin D. Roosevelt ignored the Holocaust. Here is a question. Do you think killing of millions of people for no reason is bad? Do you? Did you know that Saddam Hussein gassed over a million of his own people, for no reason, by dropping deadly biological weapons on him. Are you aware that the country that stopped this, was America? If you are against the gassing of millions of jews, then surely the gassing of a million kurds by Saddam Hussein you would, as a humanitarian, find absolutely repulsive. Well, thanks to America, this was ended, and for the first time in who knows how long the Iraqi people have a right to speak in their government. You know that principle of "Rule for the people, by the people"? Well, now Iraqis enjoy these same freedoms. Who can they, and do they thank for that? America. And why? Because we didn't pull out troops when things got difficult but stayed and secured the country.

And do you know what President gave the most to AIDS research? President Bush is the correct answer. African countries got 5 times more AIDS relief during his presidency. Didn't you say you wanted us to help more countries? Isn't that exactly what you wanted.

But on the note of President Obama, he has a half brother in Kenya. And guess what? He is starving to death. No aid, not even for his own half brother. Change we can believe in.

So what if he did? This isn't about Bush. And I do find it absolutely REPULSIVE that people were (and still are) being slain because of their race and because of greed around the world. It sickens me. It sickens me how evil people have become, and I want to do something about it. But why didn't we leave after it was secured, hm? So, why is he giving money that WE DON'T HAVE to AIDS research? We've been in the red for YEARS Q, and Bush didn't change that. In fact, I think we were in the black once for like a week back when Clinton was president. But don't go by me coz I don't know for sure. And it's exactly what I want. I want peace in troubled countries. Did you know that when Sierra Leone was in a civil war over diamonds that the diamond companies didn't do anything? I don't even think any country did anything until they realized that people were dying. Humans have been overcome with money and greed. This isn't what we were intended for.

But whatever, I'm fighting a losing battle. I'm gonna shut up now.

To answer the question why we didn't leave after it was secured, it has only been completely secured in very recent times. Not even a year or so. It was still overrun with terrorists. Baghdad couldn't be walked through safely. Now it is one of the safest cities in Iraq. That's why. And at the time President Bush gave the money, we had it. Actually, that's a lie. During President Bush's presidency we had a splendid economy. I don't know what your history teacher tells you, but anything contrary to that is a boldfaced lie. We weathered Clintonian Depression, dotcom bust, 9/11, and Hurricane Katrina economy attacks and came out financially fantastic. Only in October or so did things really start to drop. Only in November did they start to plummet. They weren't secure, but as of January of 08 things were doing well in everywhere but mortgages. I have absolutely NO idea what that Clinton comment was about. You really have a weak understanding of history, especially of economics. I don't blame you, I blame the education system we have. It is really harmful, as it makes even having a simple debate with me on history nearly impossible.

All that stuff about greed, peace in troubled countries, has nothing to do with President Obama, or President Bush.

[quote="PeinQAkatsuki"]

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

quater wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

KakashiHatake_roxs wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:Just a simple wonderment caused Q to say Obama is like a rock star in the sense that he was elected by popularity and saying that the stock market has been in the toilet since he was elected.

Which isn't true it was suckish long before that.

i agree that the stock market has been suckish long before Obama became president. My Dad is a stock holder or what eva, and he has lost some money in the stocks way before the election.

Right! See, just because Obama was elected at a bad time does NOT make it his fault.

YESSSSSHH!!!
Obama is the greatest president the U.S.A. could ever have. If Macann (Or however you spell his first name) was elected, it would basically be Bush for a third 4-year period!

-bows- You have real guts to say that buddeh. Q will have your head when he realizes it

But I do agree with you, really I do. My favorite president still stands as JFK, but Obama is right up there with Clinton.

Why would I say anything to this guy? I don't talk to idiots.

FYI: i am a gal!!!
and second!!: I am not an idiot, and you better be carful what you say about me, just ask Pein.[/quot

Cool.

I think I'll be alright.

you didn't ask Pein, did you?
Pein, would you like to explain to the soon to be killed Kage what happens when i am mad?

-runs around in circles- BUT YOU'LL GET BANNED IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL!! Q IS A RELATIVELY (I MEAN THAT IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY BTW) NICE GUY AND HE DOESN'T LIKE TO BAN PEOPLE (I'M STILL HERE AREN'T I?) BUT THERE HAS BEEN INCIDENTS!!!!

See???

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

PeinQ we are now no longer talking.

That was a completely, unbelievably different situation and after as many debates as we have had and how I have never threatened to even delete a post of yours, and as tolerant as WOTN is, I am overwhelmingly insulted you'd say that.

WTH Q that wasn't even relevant! I was in fact saying that you were a nice guy. I just mentioned that i have seen someone get banned before because of a threat to a kage. You misunderstood me. i never said you did threaten to ban me, I just said that I was still here, so obviously you had never threatened to ban me or whatever.

But listen, if I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.

It looked by the way you said it "Df got banned" who I banned for a loooot of reasons, including ignoring several warnings. And you implied that due to some threat, I was gonna ban Kakashirox. Uncool.

I was just telling her that threatening a kage turned out bad before, and I didn't want that to happen to her. Really Q, I called you a nice guy before that if you hadn't noticed. But whatever. If it really offended you, I'm deeply sorry. It wasn't my intention.

That's not WHY DF got banned. Stop saying that. It's erronerous. Kage's have been threatened dozens of times. I know a kid said he'd get a shotgun and find me in jacksonville and shoot it through my face. I didn't ban him.

DF got banned because of a host of reasons. And only one reason had to do with threatening a kage. And not just once. He threatened Death in PM's from his first day on WOTN, to his last. And still, that wouldn't have gotten him banned.

So I would please ask you not to take everything DF says as gold. Because it's not.

Edit: Yes, I see you said that. Do you not see how I got the implication I got?

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:KashiHat: ha ha yeah I know that feeling. And no problemo buddeh!

Q: She's a girl dude.

Q again: Well still, you don't know what it's like to be president of the most powerful country do you? Hm? Yes you have to have first hand experience to know that true feeling, that's just how it goes.

And as for emotions, because I CARE about people in Iraq who are getting killed for no reason. INNOCENT BYSTANDERS Q ARE GETTING KILLED IN IRAQ BY OUR BOMBS AND YOU EXPECT A HUMANITARIAN LIKE ME TO SIT AROUND AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? Sorry, had to get that out.

And while we're on the topic of genocide, while we're splundering our money making weapons for a war, why aren't we helping other countries slightly? Hm? I mean, Bill Gates and Fall Out Boy have the right idea for donating their money. Why was it that the government didn't bat an eye about the Holocaust before Pearl Harbour was bombed, huh?

Okay sorry that was irrevelant beyond belief. My bad, i got fired up.

Actually, that is incorrect. Do you know who's bombs that are killing these innocent bystanders? Terrorists. It has been several years since many bombs have been laid on a city. And even then, casualties of innocents was lower than in any war of this scale in history. But as of late, as in the past 5 years, almost all casualties by bombs have come from one group. Terrorists. If we left, a genocide would have occurred. Would a humanitarian such as yourself preferred a genocide to stopping terrorists? I don't know. I for one think that it is a good thing we stopped a genocide. You can make your own call.

I have no idea why Franklin D. Roosevelt ignored the Holocaust. Here is a question. Do you think killing of millions of people for no reason is bad? Do you? Did you know that Saddam Hussein gassed over a million of his own people, for no reason, by dropping deadly biological weapons on him. Are you aware that the country that stopped this, was America? If you are against the gassing of millions of jews, then surely the gassing of a million kurds by Saddam Hussein you would, as a humanitarian, find absolutely repulsive. Well, thanks to America, this was ended, and for the first time in who knows how long the Iraqi people have a right to speak in their government. You know that principle of "Rule for the people, by the people"? Well, now Iraqis enjoy these same freedoms. Who can they, and do they thank for that? America. And why? Because we didn't pull out troops when things got difficult but stayed and secured the country.

And do you know what President gave the most to AIDS research? President Bush is the correct answer. African countries got 5 times more AIDS relief during his presidency. Didn't you say you wanted us to help more countries? Isn't that exactly what you wanted.

But on the note of President Obama, he has a half brother in Kenya. And guess what? He is starving to death. No aid, not even for his own half brother. Change we can believe in.

So what if he did? This isn't about Bush. And I do find it absolutely REPULSIVE that people were (and still are) being slain because of their race and because of greed around the world. It sickens me. It sickens me how evil people have become, and I want to do something about it. But why didn't we leave after it was secured, hm? So, why is he giving money that WE DON'T HAVE to AIDS research? We've been in the red for YEARS Q, and Bush didn't change that. In fact, I think we were in the black once for like a week back when Clinton was president. But don't go by me coz I don't know for sure. And it's exactly what I want. I want peace in troubled countries. Did you know that when Sierra Leone was in a civil war over diamonds that the diamond companies didn't do anything? I don't even think any country did anything until they realized that people were dying. Humans have been overcome with money and greed. This isn't what we were intended for.

But whatever, I'm fighting a losing battle. I'm gonna shut up now.

To answer the question why we didn't leave after it was secured, it has only been completely secured in very recent times. Not even a year or so. It was still overrun with terrorists. Baghdad couldn't be walked through safely. Now it is one of the safest cities in Iraq. That's why. And at the time President Bush gave the money, we had it. Actually, that's a lie. During President Bush's presidency we had a splendid economy. I don't know what your history teacher tells you, but anything contrary to that is a boldfaced lie. We weathered Clintonian Depression, dotcom bust, 9/11, and Hurricane Katrina economy attacks and came out financially fantastic. Only in October or so did things really start to drop. Only in November did they start to plummet. They weren't secure, but as of January of 08 things were doing well in everywhere but mortgages. I have absolutely NO idea what that Clinton comment was about. You really have a weak understanding of history, especially of economics. I don't blame you, I blame the education system we have. It is really harmful, as it makes even having a simple debate with me on history nearly impossible.

All that stuff about greed, peace in troubled countries, has nothing to do with President Obama, or President Bush.

Okay okay whatever. I'm not saying i agree with you but I can't understand half the things you're saying, which is why I said i'm fighting a losing battle, so I'm gonna shut up.

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

quater wrote:

PeinQAkatsuki wrote:

Always-Abby wrote:-pops in for a second-
Exactly why I don't come to these threads Always a threat to a kage that ends up in failure.
-pops back out-

Exactly Abby!!! I've seen it happen before!!! I mean, DF got banned (I think, or something like that) remember???

PeinQ we are now no longer talking.

That was a completely, unbelievably different situation and after as many debates as we have had and how I have never threatened to even delete a post of yours, and as tolerant as WOTN is, I am overwhelmingly insulted you'd say that.

WTH Q that wasn't even relevant! I was in fact saying that you were a nice guy. I just mentioned that i have seen someone get banned before because of a threat to a kage. You misunderstood me. i never said you did threaten to ban me, I just said that I was still here, so obviously you had never threatened to ban me or whatever.

But listen, if I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.

It looked by the way you said it "Df got banned" who I banned for a loooot of reasons, including ignoring several warnings. And you implied that due to some threat, I was gonna ban Kakashirox. Uncool.

I was just telling her that threatening a kage turned out bad before, and I didn't want that to happen to her. Really Q, I called you a nice guy before that if you hadn't noticed. But whatever. If it really offended you, I'm deeply sorry. It wasn't my intention.

That's not WHY DF got banned. Stop saying that. It's erronerous. Kage's have been threatened dozens of times. I know a kid said he'd get a shotgun and find me in jacksonville and shoot it through my face. I didn't ban him.

DF got banned because of a host of reasons. And only one reason had to do with threatening a kage. And not just once. He threatened Death in PM's from his first day on WOTN, to his last. And still, that wouldn't have gotten him banned.

So I would please ask you not to take everything DF says as gold. Because it's not.

Edit: Yes, I see you said that. Do you not see how I got the implication I got?

Well okay I'm sorry! Jeez just forget I freaking said ANYTHING okay? I'm having yet ANOTHER bad week and I'm stressed out because of it.