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    Post by Little_Shiro Wed Mar 04 2009, 16:35

    Speak your mind on Presidents , Senators , Vice prez ... ect

    Say why u hate them , say why u love them

    Say whatever u think they are doing (smokin pot , an alcholic ect)
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    Post by quater Wed Mar 04 2009, 16:55

    I think we can all count on hope, change, and continued bipartisanship in Washington for years to come. The spirit of President Obama and Nanci Pelosi to work for the country is beautiful and all are doing their part.


    That is to ruin us.
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Wed Mar 04 2009, 19:45

    I personally support Obama. But that's just me -expects to get quoted by someone wanting to debate-
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 04 2009, 19:47

    I don't like or dislike the Current U.S.A. President, however I do not think he holds the power to do what the United States of America want him to do. Because that power lies within the senate.
    President Obama just seems like a good natured unlucky guy
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Wed Mar 04 2009, 20:05

    Haha - that's a good way to put it!
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Wed Mar 04 2009, 20:06

    I wonder what it would be like if a rock star became president...
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Wed Mar 04 2009, 20:13

    Depends on the rock star....
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Wed Mar 04 2009, 20:16

    I think that Billie Joe Armstrong would make an interesting president XD

    The oval office would be completely redecorated and the whole she-bang. The White House might just become The Anarchy House or The Punk House.

    But Billie Joe's awesome all the way anyways.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Wed Mar 04 2009, 20:27

    I would love to redecorate the white house!!
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Wed Mar 04 2009, 20:28

    Me too! XD
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    Post by quater Wed Mar 04 2009, 21:35

    Arguably President Obama is a rockstar who became President. No experience, no true skills to speak of, but gosh darn it he was popular and a "brilliant" (if you can stay awake I suppose) orator. The world's biggest celebrity President. He may not have much abilities and be beholden to crazy ideologues, but gosh darn it he sure seems swell.

    The true power of the United States is divided among 3 branches, the senate being half of Congress, which is one branch.

    Edit: Ah, I lied. Technically, the true power of America resides in it's people.

    And it seems that someone has figured out how to perfectly pull the strings of the people to get them to act exactly how they would like.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Wed Mar 04 2009, 21:58

    But he can't play a guitar. He's not in a band. I think she meant like, the rolling stones 'rockstar'??
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    Post by quater Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:00

    I know what she meant. I was taking her point and making a point out of it that not surprisingly went over the masses heads.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:01

    The masses?? I'm the only one that answered. Was that a fat joke??
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    Post by quater Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:03

    Of course.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:04

    XD

    I knew it.
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    Post by quater Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:05

    From the pic I saw of you you are definitely far from fat.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:06

    Which one??
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:07

    quater wrote:Arguably President Obama is a rockstar who became President. No experience, no true skills to speak of, but gosh darn it he was popular and a "brilliant" (if you can stay awake I suppose) orator. The world's biggest celebrity President. He may not have much abilities and be beholden to crazy ideologues, but gosh darn it he sure seems swell.

    The true power of the United States is divided among 3 branches, the senate being half of Congress, which is one branch.

    Edit: Ah, I lied. Technically, the true power of America resides in it's people.

    And it seems that someone has figured out how to perfectly pull the strings of the people to get them to act exactly how they would like.
    Exactly, but see Q, what you said about America's true power resides in it's citizens is absolutely true. So, all of what happens to America isn't Obama's fault. The theory of government for us is to be ruled for the people, by the people. People have the right to make changes in America, therefore not making the president completely liable for things that go wrong.
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    Post by quater Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:07

    The only one I ever saw.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:10

    Oh... Yeah.
    Well, I am on the slender side.
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    Post by quater Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:10

    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:
    quater wrote:Arguably President Obama is a rockstar who became President. No experience, no true skills to speak of, but gosh darn it he was popular and a "brilliant" (if you can stay awake I suppose) orator. The world's biggest celebrity President. He may not have much abilities and be beholden to crazy ideologues, but gosh darn it he sure seems swell.

    The true power of the United States is divided among 3 branches, the senate being half of Congress, which is one branch.

    Edit: Ah, I lied. Technically, the true power of America resides in it's people.

    And it seems that someone has figured out how to perfectly pull the strings of the people to get them to act exactly how they would like.
    Exactly, but see Q, what you said about America's true power resides in it's citizens is absolutely true. So, all of what happens to America isn't Obama's fault. The theory of government for us is to be ruled for the people, by the people. People have the right to make changes in America, therefore not making the president completely liable for things that go wrong.

    What's your point? I do blame the idiot uneducated fools who got caught up in the hype for President Obama becoming President.

    But what you also ignore is that the office of the Presidency holds tremendous power, that can only be checked by the people every 4 years. And there is no denying that since President Obama has taken office the stock market has had an unbelievable drop. Well, it's not unbelievable to me since I predicted it, but to the commoners who believed all would be well, it should be. The power of the Presidency is huge, and when Congress is aligned with him there is relatively little to stop him from pushing insane agendas.

    I agree, the power of America resides in the people. In fact, those were my exact words.

    But the President does deserve the blame for things he messes up.
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:16

    quater wrote:
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    quater wrote:Arguably President Obama is a rockstar who became President. No experience, no true skills to speak of, but gosh darn it he was popular and a "brilliant" (if you can stay awake I suppose) orator. The world's biggest celebrity President. He may not have much abilities and be beholden to crazy ideologues, but gosh darn it he sure seems swell.

    The true power of the United States is divided among 3 branches, the senate being half of Congress, which is one branch.

    Edit: Ah, I lied. Technically, the true power of America resides in it's people.

    And it seems that someone has figured out how to perfectly pull the strings of the people to get them to act exactly how they would like.
    Exactly, but see Q, what you said about America's true power resides in it's citizens is absolutely true. So, all of what happens to America isn't Obama's fault. The theory of government for us is to be ruled for the people, by the people. People have the right to make changes in America, therefore not making the president completely liable for things that go wrong.

    What's your point? I do blame the idiot uneducated fools who got caught up in the hype for President Obama becoming President.

    But what you also ignore is that the office of the Presidency holds tremendous power, that can only be checked by the people every 4 years. And there is no denying that since President Obama has taken office the stock market has had an unbelievable drop. Well, it's not unbelievable to me since I predicted it, but to the commoners who believed all would be well, it should be. The power of the Presidency is huge, and when Congress is aligned with him there is relatively little to stop him from pushing insane agendas.

    I agree, the power of America resides in the people. In fact, those were my exact words.

    But the President does deserve the blame for things he messes up.
    Uh, no Q the stock market has been in the toilet since before Obama was even inagurated. What happened was it had a half-meltdown in Wall-Street and people flipped out. What you're not getting is that's how a depression happens. People freak out when they're stocks begin to drop, so they sell, making the stocks pay money, making the quotes go down. That's how the last one started, and then it was in full fledged bloom when the banks in fact used the money to keep themselves from not being bankrupt. So, obviously it's not anyone's fault that Wall Street managed to have a meltdown for some reason before Obama was even president, and in fact, Obama has passed a bill for the economic stimulus restoration and recovery (or something like that, I'm actually paying attention in History class). It's not Obama's OR Bush's fault that the stocks went down. It's in fact the people's fault that they started selling like crazy.

    Yes, the power of the presidency is huge, but they really only have the power to enforce laws and such, and that power alone is huge enough. Congress can't control everything. I mean, would you blame Obama if the drug trafficking became 10 times greater in his term? Hm? Coz it seems to me like you just might. Congress can't control everything within the country, so it's up to the people to help them and not blame them for every little thing that happens.
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    Post by KakashiHatake_roxs Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:24

    What you two argueing about THIS time?
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Wed Mar 04 2009, 22:25

    Just a simple wonderment caused Q to say Obama is like a rock star in the sense that he was elected by popularity and saying that the stock market has been in the toilet since he was elected.

    Which isn't true it was suckish long before that.

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