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    Post by quater Thu Mar 05 2009, 19:22

    Sure.

    Except the debate. I knew what I was talking about then.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Thu Mar 05 2009, 19:23

    Of course you did. ^^
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    Post by quater Thu Mar 05 2009, 19:24

    SickSelfishSycho wrote:Of course you did. ^^

    I did you sarcastic person!
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Thu Mar 05 2009, 19:26

    Sigh... You always assume I'm being sarcastic...
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    Post by quater Thu Mar 05 2009, 19:27

    You always are =/
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Thu Mar 05 2009, 19:32

    ^_^ You've got a point, there.

    I was being serious, though. I wouldn't say you don't know what you are talking about in the politics area because I am not really a match for you when it comes to the facts. I can give you opinions, but usually there isn't much hard evidence against your argument.
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    Post by quater Thu Mar 05 2009, 20:28

    That's such a nice thing to say ^_^
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Thu Mar 05 2009, 20:44

    I am overflowing with nice things to say.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 05 2009, 21:09

    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:May I add that the only reason that George W. Bush is NOT in prison right now for war crimes against humanity is because the senate has not passed that international criminal court of Justice declaration in the U.S.A.
    If they did, countries such as Iraq would bring Bush to the international Criminal Court and have Bush behind bars for bringing false evidence against Iraq into the UN and saying they bomb them in 2001. Only Britain bought it and they tried passing military action against Iraq through the Security Council but it was vetoed. Still Bush pushed and basically said your for us or against us. And broke international law attacking another country, instigating a conflict and breaking the Security Council's declaration to do nothing. Basically U.S.A. invaded Iraq on false pretenses and broke many international laws and George Bush can be put up as a dictator like Stalin or Hitler, for going into other countries and killing innocent people.

    Amaterasu, I definitely understand your rhetoric and see the reasoning because I've heard it before but it doesn't make it necessarily true. Sorry. I wrote a paper, really a case, on why the US shouldn't submit to the ICC and if you knew historical examples of its failure, you might just reconsider.

    You are obviously implying that Bush devised 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq. This is a fallacy because Bush specifically targets the axis of evil and if you saw his intolerance towards the malicious terrorists who did those atrocious acts, we wouldn't even need to have this conversation. Bush spent billions (more even, I know) on the War on Terror though this was a risky move for his presidency. To say Bush charged in on false charges is wrong because no President relishes going to war on blood thirsty instinct alone, increasing a deficit.

    It's almost offensive when you say "False pretenses" because any and all measures should be taken to ensure the safety of one's citizens. I'll be the first to admit that the effort wasn't perfect, but the US has accomplished much groundwork and hasn't had a single attack since 9/11. I almost got drawn in by Obama's rhetoric on how we "are air raiding villages and killing innocent civilians" until I remember how some radical extremists mutilated American civilians on National Broadcasted TV seen by millions. No innocent civilian should be killed, they should be given freedom and a constitution, which seems mind-blowingly brave to me.

    First off, I am well aware of how infective the UN is in general, ad how I really don't support it
    Also I don't care what happen on 9/11 or who caused it because it is not up to me to judge that, I am just saying Bush gave false evidence for Iraq attacking them and then they went in and broke a bunch of international laws.


    I guess I must have missed the hype about Obama. I think my mother's getting rid of T.V. decision actually came out for the better :D

    That was not very specific but if you say, if you say. You're my friend, and clashing doesn't do anything for the aura.

    Your dear mother is getting rid of the TV so you can't see Obama? An outrage! Your pals will start thinking you live under a rock.

    it's been almost a year, and they all know I live bascialy under a rock and know almost nothing of things they know. But I am fine with that, also Obama wouldn't be on Canadian news much anyways
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    Post by quater Thu Mar 05 2009, 21:16

    SickSelfishSycho wrote:I am overflowing with nice things to say.

    And you wonder why I say sarcastic?
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Thu Mar 05 2009, 21:38

    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSycho wrote:I am overflowing with nice things to say.

    And you wonder why I say sarcastic?

    ^_^
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 05 2009, 21:39

    SickSelfishSycho wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:May I add that the only reason that George W. Bush is NOT in prison right now for war crimes against humanity is because the senate has not passed that international criminal court of Justice declaration in the U.S.A.
    If they did, countries such as Iraq would bring Bush to the international Criminal Court and have Bush behind bars for bringing false evidence against Iraq into the UN and saying they bomb them in 2001. Only Britain bought it and they tried passing military action against Iraq through the Security Council but it was vetoed. Still Bush pushed and basically said your for us or against us. And broke international law attacking another country, instigating a conflict and breaking the Security Council's declaration to do nothing. Basically U.S.A. invaded Iraq on false pretenses and broke many international laws and George Bush can be put up as a dictator like Stalin or Hitler, for going into other countries and killing innocent people.

    Were you born this stupid, or was it something that arose during time?

    Honestly this one post is so outlandish I couldn't even begin to respond.

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    It doesn't mean you're right.

    Actually it means you're so wrong that one has to worry about your sanity.

    I will only say that my sanity means nothing to me, and all that I am hinges on foolishness, so I guess most people would say I am wrong about many things, doesn't mean I am though, Truth is not relative.
    Also this economic fall is cause by the evil in the hearts of people of America

    Only the people of America??

    no, but for America's economic problems, it is the hearts of Americans.
    If America were to turn their hearts back to God and Repent then their economic situation would improve big time, like gold rush style
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Thu Mar 05 2009, 21:44

    amaterasu wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:
    quater wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:May I add that the only reason that George W. Bush is NOT in prison right now for war crimes against humanity is because the senate has not passed that international criminal court of Justice declaration in the U.S.A.
    If they did, countries such as Iraq would bring Bush to the international Criminal Court and have Bush behind bars for bringing false evidence against Iraq into the UN and saying they bomb them in 2001. Only Britain bought it and they tried passing military action against Iraq through the Security Council but it was vetoed. Still Bush pushed and basically said your for us or against us. And broke international law attacking another country, instigating a conflict and breaking the Security Council's declaration to do nothing. Basically U.S.A. invaded Iraq on false pretenses and broke many international laws and George Bush can be put up as a dictator like Stalin or Hitler, for going into other countries and killing innocent people.

    Were you born this stupid, or was it something that arose during time?

    Honestly this one post is so outlandish I couldn't even begin to respond.

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    It doesn't mean you're right.

    Actually it means you're so wrong that one has to worry about your sanity.

    I will only say that my sanity means nothing to me, and all that I am hinges on foolishness, so I guess most people would say I am wrong about many things, doesn't mean I am though, Truth is not relative.
    Also this economic fall is cause by the evil in the hearts of people of America

    Only the people of America??

    no, but for America's economic problems, it is the hearts of Americans.
    If America were to turn their hearts back to God and Repent then their economic situation would improve big time, like gold rush style

    How does god seriously have anything to do with the economy??
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    Post by Kagamiko Sun Mar 08 2009, 09:49

    Thank you U.S for finally managing to elect the right president for once.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Mon Mar 09 2009, 01:45

    I don't pay much attention so I must find out if this is true. I have heard that President Obama is pro-marijuana legalization??
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Mon Mar 09 2009, 02:17

    Never heard that o.o Then again, I am too if it's for MEDICINAL purposes. Or if it's part of your religion. But legal just to smoke it, nuh-uh that's not cool.
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    Post by quater Mon Mar 09 2009, 14:57

    Thank you for this thread I remembered I had a new President Obama quote!
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Mon Mar 09 2009, 18:38

    If it's the one in your sig, there really ISN'T anything special about Britain. I mean, sure they got Liverpoole and that's where we came from, but really, I don't see any countries being more special than others. :/ But I do happen to love Britain.
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Mon Mar 09 2009, 18:41

    Woah wait, aren't there more than 190 countries?
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 09 2009, 19:18

    http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/03/09/korea-election.html

    Apparently North Korea will attack anyone who stops them from sending a satellite into space that include the U.S.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 09 2009, 19:25

    SickSelfishSycho wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
    SickSelfishSycho wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:
    quater wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:May I add that the only reason that George W. Bush is NOT in prison right now for war crimes against humanity is because the senate has not passed that international criminal court of Justice declaration in the U.S.A.
    If they did, countries such as Iraq would bring Bush to the international Criminal Court and have Bush behind bars for bringing false evidence against Iraq into the UN and saying they bomb them in 2001. Only Britain bought it and they tried passing military action against Iraq through the Security Council but it was vetoed. Still Bush pushed and basically said your for us or against us. And broke international law attacking another country, instigating a conflict and breaking the Security Council's declaration to do nothing. Basically U.S.A. invaded Iraq on false pretenses and broke many international laws and George Bush can be put up as a dictator like Stalin or Hitler, for going into other countries and killing innocent people.

    Were you born this stupid, or was it something that arose during time?

    Honestly this one post is so outlandish I couldn't even begin to respond.

    good

    It doesn't mean you're right.

    Actually it means you're so wrong that one has to worry about your sanity.

    I will only say that my sanity means nothing to me, and all that I am hinges on foolishness, so I guess most people would say I am wrong about many things, doesn't mean I am though, Truth is not relative.
    Also this economic fall is cause by the evil in the hearts of people of America

    Only the people of America??

    no, but for America's economic problems, it is the hearts of Americans.
    If America were to turn their hearts back to God and Repent then their economic situation would improve big time, like gold rush style

    How does god seriously have anything to do with the economy??

    what doesn't it have to do with God?
    seriously God would have control over a countries economy easily. it wouldn't be that hard for him, he is God afterall
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    Post by quater Mon Mar 09 2009, 19:42

    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:If it's the one in your sig, there really ISN'T anything special about Britain. I mean, sure they got Liverpoole and that's where we came from, but really, I don't see any countries being more special than others. :/ But I do happen to love Britain.

    Britain is special as it is culturally connected to our civilization.

    It's also America's number one ally and one of the most Christianized nations in Europe still around.

    Would you really say that Britain and Nigeria should hold equal footing in America?
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    Post by quater Mon Mar 09 2009, 19:44

    amaterasu wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/03/09/korea-election.html

    Apparently North Korea will attack anyone who stops them from sending a satellite into space that include the U.S.

    Yes yes we get it you hate America it's gotten old amaterasu. Learn a new song, will you?

    It's funny because if America used force or threatened this nation that has no qualms against obliterating another nation you'd say America is being imperialist.

    A communist nation that starves it's own people so that it can obtain some of the most deadly weapons in human history so that it can threaten it's enemies.

    And you'd probably gladly take their side, wouldn't you, Amaterasu?

    And yet, you'll say no. Why? Because I said you would. And you never take the side I say you will.
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Mon Mar 09 2009, 20:07

    I advise whoever is an American and who travels around the world to different countries say you're Canadian or something when you're there because people hate Americans with a burning passion. It's a fact.

    Q: Really, dude, Britain is cool, but it's not special. No country is more special than the other. So what if they've got London and amazing music? So what if that country is the setting for Dracula? It's no big deal where you live.

    Well, it kind of is, depending on the situation in the country and such.
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    Post by quater Mon Mar 09 2009, 20:09

    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:I advise whoever is an American and who travels around the world to different countries say you're Canadian or something when you're there because people hate Americans with a burning passion. It's a fact.

    Q: Really, dude, Britain is cool, but it's not special. No country is more special than the other. So what if they've got London and amazing music? So what if that country is the setting for Dracula? It's no big deal where you live.

    Well, it kind of is, depending on the situation in the country and such.

    Where did you hear that fact? My dad has been all over Europe and Asia, and he has never told me of any instance where he was not accepted with friendliness.

    So you believe the country where America gets it's founding roots and was one of the most powerful country for a hundred years, and America's greatest ally, is no bigger deal than Nigeria.

    Let's just say it's a good thing you don't plan on becoming a diplomat, you'd screw us over.

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