Creation Vs Evolution

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.

I'm just saying how it's a little bit of creation and evolution mixed into one, like scientific proof and religion

and no, He didn't feed the 5000 people slowly, but didn't the egyptians set up the calendar, anyways?
Moses said "7 days" but how do we know if it really was 7 days? What about the dinosaurs? Did they appear then die within a 24 hour period?

no evolution is kinda weird and i'm not saying its a bit of both at all, it might be that teh homo-hibilis.erectus were god shaping us but we will never know
as for the calendar it was 7 days, it wasn't 7 years or he would have said 7 days. the dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible in the ld testement actually and the new-testement for a matter of fact.

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.

I'm just saying how it's a little bit of creation and evolution mixed into one, like scientific proof and religion

and no, He didn't feed the 5000 people slowly, but didn't the egyptians set up the calendar, anyways?
Moses said "7 days" but how do we know if it really was 7 days? What about the dinosaurs? Did they appear then die within a 24 hour period?

no evolution is kinda weird and i'm not saying its a bit of both at all, it might be that teh homo-hibilis.erectus were god shaping us but we will never know
as for the calendar it was 7 days, it wasn't 7 years or he would have said 7 days. the dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible in the ld testement actually and the new-testement for a matter of fact.

Or God made us as Homo Sapians. Problem with Homo Hillbillies is that there is no evidence of fossils that show evolution from the hillbilly to Man today. I haved looked everywhere but everytime there is it's "A tooth" Manmade, or it's just a regular one smashed in by a rock.

Scientists have even Said that Pig ears were part of a human Skull. In reality they have no clue. People wonder why America is behind in Science maybe because we spend all our time trying to Prove God wrong and we are failing?

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.

I'm just saying how it's a little bit of creation and evolution mixed into one, like scientific proof and religion

and no, He didn't feed the 5000 people slowly, but didn't the egyptians set up the calendar, anyways?
Moses said "7 days" but how do we know if it really was 7 days? What about the dinosaurs? Did they appear then die within a 24 hour period?

So stupid...

Sorry but why do people think Creation lacks Science? It has so much more evidence then Evolution does.

No. The Dinosaurs went extinct after Noah's Flood. You act like Humans and Dinosaurs couldn't have lived together. Well why not? We have Alligators, why did the Alligator survive, and not a T-Rex then if it was all Evolution?

And yes, Egyptians Set up the Calendar, based off the Israelite Calendar used before them.

The Egyptians based the calendar off the Nile

They didn't live together. Science has proved this too, the dinosaurs became extinct before the first humans were ever created.
Who knows? There are so many theories to how the dinosaurs died out, nobody's 100% sure anymore. But if the dinosaurs and humans did coexist, why did the dinosaurs die and not the humans, too? Whatever wiped them out like that must have been powerful enough to wipe us out, too.

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.

I'm just saying how it's a little bit of creation and evolution mixed into one, like scientific proof and religion

and no, He didn't feed the 5000 people slowly, but didn't the egyptians set up the calendar, anyways?
Moses said "7 days" but how do we know if it really was 7 days? What about the dinosaurs? Did they appear then die within a 24 hour period?

no evolution is kinda weird and i'm not saying its a bit of both at all, it might be that teh homo-hibilis.erectus were god shaping us but we will never know
as for the calendar it was 7 days, it wasn't 7 years or he would have said 7 days. the dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible in the ld testement actually and the new-testement for a matter of fact.

well, the bible does mention the Land of Giants....
though, what does that mean?

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.

I'm just saying how it's a little bit of creation and evolution mixed into one, like scientific proof and religion

and no, He didn't feed the 5000 people slowly, but didn't the egyptians set up the calendar, anyways?
Moses said "7 days" but how do we know if it really was 7 days? What about the dinosaurs? Did they appear then die within a 24 hour period?

So stupid...

Sorry but why do people think Creation lacks Science? It has so much more evidence then Evolution does.

No. The Dinosaurs went extinct after Noah's Flood. You act like Humans and Dinosaurs couldn't have lived together. Well why not? We have Alligators, why did the Alligator survive, and not a T-Rex then if it was all Evolution?

And yes, Egyptians Set up the Calendar, based off the Israelite Calendar used before them.

The Egyptians based the calendar off the Nile

They didn't live together. Science has proved this too, the dinosaurs became extinct before the first humans were ever created.
Who knows? There are so many theories to how the dinosaurs died out, nobody's 100% sure anymore. But if the dinosaurs and humans did coexist, why did the dinosaurs die and not the humans, too? Whatever wiped them out like that must have been powerful enough to wipe us out, too.

Sorry, you are talking about the 365 Calendar. Yes the Egyptians set up the 365 Day Calendar.

But the 7 day calendar came from Israelites.

I am in a pretty bad mood Sabaku. So sorry but this is going to be rough.


PROVE I dare you to prove that they didn't! Radiocarbon dating? It doesn't work! They Radiocarbon dated a Sandal to 450,000 years ago from Reebok. Also, two teams RadioCarbon dated a bird Skull. One came back at 1.4 million years, the other 17 million years. You realize how off that is? They then tried again and someone got 8 million, so they settled on 5 million cause it sounded about right. THAT's OUR SCIENTISTS! They are SETTLING!? They should never settle! They should find out which one is right! And they can't! Because Radio Carbon Dating is Flawed.

Fossil Evidence? None. Archearaptor, Nebraska man, Lucy, all of em have been proven fakes. Or how about the Geologic Time Scale Q? Nope doesn't work Sabaku. It's a flawed system. When a Fossil is found in the Geologic Time Scale they compare it to the Geologic Time Scale to find what age it is. Problem is, the Geologic Time Scale is defined by what fossils are found in it. So there is no real age proven here.

Also, I do have a theory on why the Dinosaurs died and we didn't. But first, let me point out that in the Bible, Dinosaurs are mentioned more times then most animals. That's right. Job is a great example of this. Also, every culture has talk of Dragons, and ancient lizard demons of some sort. What if these are just other cultures takes on Dinosaurs? Dragons especially are repeatedly discovered and they have been proven to match with today's descriptions of Tyrannasaurus. There is only one real reason why people think Dinosaurs and Humans don't live at the same time period. Evolutionists say they don't. No that really is all there is to it.

You say Dinosaurs are extinct but for starters, are all of them? Lizards, have been proven to have a definite likeness for Brachiasaurus. The thing about Reptiles is they never stop growing from birth to death. If People in Moses's time lived for 900 years, then if a Lizard grew to be 900 years old, scientists agree that he would have the same bone structure and size as a brachiosaurus. Just a tidbit.

Also, let's look at what Evolutionists say happened. "..." Oh that's right as you said they have no answer to how they died out. The reason evolutionists can't come up with the answer? Because they think one reason killed them all.

IF we take that whole "One reason killed them all" theory out and tackle it Biblically we get a good amount of reasons. First, many scientists agree the Oceans incredibly warmed after Noah's flood so that it could be evaporated and cause first rains. This killed alot of the sea ones, not to mention the floods left a ton of sea creatures washed up all over the world (It's the real reason we find Sea animals remains on Continents today not because they fell there by Pangea Nonsense). Then there were only 2 animals of each kind. Sure if you stuff them in the boat as babies they will live. But a Tyrannasaurus Rex roaming for Food like it did before will have a hard time since so many animals were now gone. It probably starved due to lack of food like there was in the old days. Also, there were other catastrophes. Volcanoes and all those other things that happen today still happened then.

And of course man. Man still killed animals, and since there was less food they had to hunt more agressively. It is why people got spread out all over the World. They hunted more and more for food that was less and less there and the peoples got sent everywhere. We hunted more aggressively and the poor T-Rex who had to eat Tons of food a day to keep him fit and healthy couldn't get enough sheep. Plus the world was different. The new landscapes were not meant for a dinosaurs like the old ones. Face it, Humans killed hundreds of animal species nowadays, why is it a surprise we didn't kill them out then too?

I read... part of that.

Creation makes more sense than Evolution. If my ancestors are monekys, I'll die.

Q is right. Scientists waste all their time trying to find evidence of evolution. Fact is that you can't prove God wrong. And that's called testing the power of God, which you can't do. Oh yeah, and I'm strongly Catholic.

Spoiler:

Haha thanks Death and Spyke.

It's true, out of all their trying I have yet to see Tangible Evidence that says "God is wrong...here!" that can be backed up.

In fact if you think about it we are just getting more proof. I mean just imagine how much stuff is in the world! From atoms, to DNA, to organelles and organs, and they all appeared Spontaneously through accidents? Are you joshing me?

The only thing scientists in America have contributed to their field is E=mc². Even then, Albert Einstein came up with that. And he was German. Who came to America during WWII cuz Hitler was too damn dumb he didn't pay attention that Einstein, while being Jewish, was pushed away. Thus he fled to America, knocked on the door, and showed us... well whadd'ya know, an atomic bomb! You mean the same one we dropped on Japan to put an end to it all? Damn straight.

EDIT: Yeah, sorry for rambling about that. Nevertheless... aww, screw it.

I thought the Atom Bomb was developed differently.

And incorrect, American's have done miracles for Science. It's why we beat the snot out of every other country technology wise. But what can you expect when we talk about Capitalism? But when it comes to the field of Biology and Geology Liberals put so much Evolutionary bias on everything we do to make a Secular America it may very well be our downfall.

Secular? Something about using religion as government right?

Eh, as far as I'm concerned, humans shouldn't try to dabble in the things of a higher plane of existence. Like God. 'Cause they'll never get anywhere. Just work on cleaning up the world and helping underdevolped countries, yeesh.

Well that's how I thought it was. Cuz I could've sworn I heard one of my teachers say that once upon a time. I could be mistaken tho. And yes, American scientists have done a great deal of contributions. Daniel Hale Williams, for example, was the first surgeon to perform a fully successful open heart surgery. Doctors are in the field of science, right? And... oh damn. I wanted to say Steve Jobs.

EDIT: The Manhattan Project. That's what it was.

Teacher's often have biases it's no big E Spyke. The Einstein part was right but the Atom bomb was different I coulda sworn.

And yes. American Doctors are the best in the World. Which is why GOVERNMENT MEDICARE WILL SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF US! I would create my own underground Hospital in fact. Blackmarketting surgeries.

Not to mention the world of Cyberspace we are way out there. Militarily we are incredibly gone, we are still ahead in Space but losing ground to China. And when it comes to growing food, there is a reason we feed over half of the World.

I disagree Death. Why not try and understand God? The more we understand the more Magnificent he truely becomes.

Teachers are supposed to teach the evolution side of life but most people either believe that the universe is created by god but there are some that believe that there was both. I believe that god created the earth and that god did something to help. There is also a bit of people who believe that god created the big bang and that he helped with evolution.

quater wrote:Teacher's often have biases it's no big E Spyke. The Einstein part was right but the Atom bomb was different I coulda sworn.

Yeah, I edited my previous post. It was the Manhattan Project.

quater wrote:And yes. American Doctors are the best in the World. Which is why GOVERNMENT MEDICARE WILL SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF US! I would create my own underground Hospital in fact. Blackmarketting surgeries.

Lol. Q's Underground Hospital. Q + (needles + people) x reusing needles = AIDS! And I think that would be illegal. Reminds me of abusing perscriptions and pharmaceuticals and stuff.

quater wrote:Not to mention the world of Cyberspace we are way out there. Militarily we are incredibly gone, we are still ahead in Space but losing ground to China. And when it comes to growing food, there is a reason we feed over half of the World.

quater wrote:I disagree Death. Why not try and understand God? The more we understand the more Magnificent he truely becomes.

I like that statement. Very nice Q.

Lightning Mist wrote:Teachers are supposed to teach the evolution side of life but most people either believe that the universe is created by god but there are some that believe that there was both. I believe that god created the earth and that god did something to help. There is also a bit of people who believe that god created the big bang and that he helped with evolution.

I believe God did everything he said he did in Genesis.

I still believe in Creation. ^^ I love how Q sama fends off for his beliefs. *salutes*

All salute Q for his beliefs i believe like what Q said

quater wrote:Teacher's often have biases it's no big E Spyke. The Einstein part was right but the Atom bomb was different I coulda sworn.

And yes. American Doctors are the best in the World. Which is why GOVERNMENT MEDICARE WILL SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF US! I would create my own underground Hospital in fact. Blackmarketting surgeries.

Not to mention the world of Cyberspace we are way out there. Militarily we are incredibly gone, we are still ahead in Space but losing ground to China. And when it comes to growing food, there is a reason we feed over half of the World.

I disagree Death. Why not try and understand God? The more we understand the more Magnificent he truely becomes.

but I believe that one day, what we're trying to do, it's like trying to become God. Like the Babel Tower thing. We're advancing so quickly, it took us until 1950 to get to 3 billion people, and we got to 6 billion by 2000-ish. At the rate in which we are advancing with new technologies and crap, I'm worried that we're going a bit too quickly to be able to handle it.
I mean, yeah, it'd be cool to understand God, but I think that right now we don't have a clear view on the actions that define "understanding God" and "becoming God".

i believe god doesn't exist becuase in early times of religion they used gods to portray the unknown, and if something went bad they would blame it on the stars er something. Where as evolution organisms could have evolved the need to take in nutrients needed to survive and grow bigger.

So basically, EVERYTHING happened just by pure coincidence.

yeah, and everything started from what.. a period? i don't know... kinda weird..

death-chan wrote:

quater wrote:Teacher's often have biases it's no big E Spyke. The Einstein part was right but the Atom bomb was different I coulda sworn.

And yes. American Doctors are the best in the World. Which is why GOVERNMENT MEDICARE WILL SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF US! I would create my own underground Hospital in fact. Blackmarketting surgeries.

Not to mention the world of Cyberspace we are way out there. Militarily we are incredibly gone, we are still ahead in Space but losing ground to China. And when it comes to growing food, there is a reason we feed over half of the World.

I disagree Death. Why not try and understand God? The more we understand the more Magnificent he truely becomes.

but I believe that one day, what we're trying to do, it's like trying to become God. Like the Babel Tower thing. We're advancing so quickly, it took us until 1950 to get to 3 billion people, and we got to 6 billion by 2000-ish. At the rate in which we are advancing with new technologies and crap, I'm worried that we're going a bit too quickly to be able to handle it.
I mean, yeah, it'd be cool to understand God, but I think that right now we don't have a clear view on the actions that define "understanding God" and "becoming God".

You do realize God is pro Technology right?

And I am not trying to understand or become God. Just to better our lives with it. And if we can better our lives and use Technology to bring God's message then God loves technology. And it really is what we should be doing with it.

Tobito, mind supporting a bit more I already dounced that part of the theory.

And Haha thanks guys *Salutes back*

Um... Uh...
I hope none of you get mad at me... But I believe in both...
I'm sorry.. But hear me out: What if God (I'm catholic: VERY) created all living things, and THEN we evolved? I mean, God DOES have a sense of humour in him: He created ME, after all....
And then, after we evolved and what not, he sent down Jesus, yadda yadda yadda, we preach to him, and it's all good! ^-^ Easy as cheese! So, as I said, (I'm also a science nut) it's probably both!

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It ain't okay just to agree. It's okay to agree to disagree.
So why are we disagreeing to not disagree?

Kurokumo wrote:Um... Uh...
I hope none of you get mad at me... But I believe in both...
I'm sorry.. But hear me out: What if God (I'm catholic: VERY) created all living things, and THEN we evolved? I mean, God DOES have a sense of humour in him: He created ME, after all....
And then, after we evolved and what not, he sent down Jesus, yadda yadda yadda, we preach to him, and it's all good! ^-^ Easy as cheese! So, as I said, (I'm also a science nut) it's probably both!

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It ain't okay just to agree. It's okay to agree to disagree.
So why are we disagreeing to not disagree?

*Yawn*

Heard it dozens of times. Seriously.

As I said, why would God then decide to lie?