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    Post by LyricalM Thu Feb 28 2008, 06:46

    creation
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    Post by neon kun Thu Feb 28 2008, 06:47

    yay for Creation!
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    Post by LyricalM Thu Feb 28 2008, 06:49

    yay!
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    Post by neon kun Thu Feb 28 2008, 07:04

    yay!
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    Post by Horai Thu Feb 28 2008, 07:49

    what is the diff betwen creation and evolution?
    they are same right?
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    Post by neon kun Thu Feb 28 2008, 07:51

    nope!

    Creation-- that the world was made by God.

    Evolution-- as time passed by, the world was created. or people evolved from monkeys as stated by Charles Darwin.
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    Post by Horai Thu Feb 28 2008, 07:54

    neon kun wrote:nope!

    Creation-- that the world was made by God.

    Evolution-- as time passed by, the world was created. or people evolved from monkeys as stated by Charles Darwin.
    okay. . .
    i willn't choose both,cause i still confused bout this
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    Post by Titaniumxvx Thu Feb 28 2008, 11:04

    I remember this thread ...
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    Post by quater Thu Feb 28 2008, 19:51

    Me too.

    How is this confusing?
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    Post by spyke543 Thu Feb 28 2008, 19:55

    Horai wrote:
    neon kun wrote:nope!

    Creation-- that the world was made by God.

    Evolution-- as time passed by, the world was created. or people evolved from monkeys as stated by Charles Darwin.
    okay. . .
    i willn't choose both,cause i still confused bout this

    They're basically saying do you believe God created everything, or every evolved from little fishy stuff in the sea.
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    Post by quater Thu Feb 28 2008, 19:56

    spyke543 wrote:
    Horai wrote:
    neon kun wrote:nope!

    Creation-- that the world was made by God.

    Evolution-- as time passed by, the world was created. or people evolved from monkeys as stated by Charles Darwin.
    okay. . .
    i willn't choose both,cause i still confused bout this

    They're basically saying do you believe God created everything, or every evolved from little fishy stuff in the sea.

    Fishy goo.
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    Post by sabaku no ketsueki Thu Feb 28 2008, 19:57

    WTF?!?! the...thread....lives?
    THE THREAD LIVES!

    try this one: I'm a theistic evolutionist
    BTW, it's more in favor of creation
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    Post by spyke543 Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:04

    I just looked it up. Wikipedia > Theistic evolution.

    Theistic evolution holds that the theist's acceptance of evolutionary biology is not fundamentally different from the acceptance of other sciences, such as astronomy or meteorology. The latter two are also based on a methodological assumption of naturalism to study and explain the natural world, without assuming the existence or nonexistence of the supernatural. In this view, it is held both religiously and scientifically correct to reinterpret ancient religious texts in line with modern-day scientific findings about evolution.

    This synthesis of the teleology underlying faith and religious teachings with science can still be described as creationism in holding that divine intervention brought about the origin of life or that divine Laws govern formation of species, but in the creation-evolution controversy its proponents generally take the "evolutionist" side. For this reason, some on both sides prefer to use the term "theistic evolution" over "evolutionary creationism" to describe this belief.
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    Post by sabaku no ketsueki Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:05

    .....
    you realize I could have explained it?
    and that definition just confuses me Hehehe...
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    Post by spyke543 Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:08

    Ok, you explain it then.
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    Post by sabaku no ketsueki Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:13

    well, if you're not careful, I will XD

    anyways, theistic evolution is basically that God created Adam and Eve and all that, but not as we are today. They were created as Homo-Habilus, and thus, evolved from there. It is riddled with doubt, though, like, where would original sin come in?
    so yeah, that's it...if I haven't left anything out
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    Post by spyke543 Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:14

    sabaku no ketsueki wrote:well, if you're not careful, I will XD

    anyways, theistic evolution is basically that God created Adam and Eve and all that, but not as we are today. They were created as Homo-Habilus, and thus, evolved from there. It is riddled with doubt, though, like, where would original sin come in?
    so yeah, that's it...if I haven't left anything out

    Well that's pretty simple.
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    Post by sabaku no ketsueki Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:16

    =D
    that's good, then! my explanations don't suck!
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    Post by spyke543 Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:19

    So you said that God created cavemen. And then the cavemen evolved and evolved and finally here we are? So it has parts of both, but neither are all the way.
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    Post by sabaku no ketsueki Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:21

    basically, yeah
    it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say
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    Post by amaterasu Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:53

    i have been thinking lately (I am on creation side)

    if we look at how our universe began, it was created by God who used the Big bang. Also for all the "Miracles" in the old testement like Moses' parting of the reed sea, God didn't just go poof and things happened. What he did was he used teh earth itself. Scienctist have proven that at the time Moses and the Isrealites were escaping a giant volcano erupted up north on the northern coast of the mediterranin sea and it created a large ash cloud that was like a pillar of fire at night. God, in the past, used nature for his miracles so that we could understand. He tried doing things that we could cope with. As for humains?
    well it is possible that he did create man as homo- habilis and shaped them into us ( when he said he shaped man from dust) and it is possible that the first couple of chapters of Genesis could have happened over millions of years. Because then the rest of the Bible takes place just before and after the first egyptions. But it is also possible that the bible is word for word correct. However, I try not to bug myself too much over this.
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    Post by quater Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:54

    sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
    it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

    When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

    Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.
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    Post by quater Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:56

    Amaterasu wrote:i have been thinking lately (I am on creation side)

    if we look at how our universe began, it was created by God who used the Big bang. Also for all the "Miracles" in the old testement like Moses' parting of the reed sea, God didn't just go poof and things happened. What he did was he used teh earth itself. Scienctist have proven that at the time Moses and the Isrealites were escaping a giant volcano erupted up north on the northern coast of the mediterranin sea and it created a large ash cloud that was like a pillar of fire at night. God, in the past, used nature for his miracles so that we could understand. He tried doing things that we could cope with. As for humains?
    well it is possible that he did create man as homo- habilis and shaped them into us ( when he said he shaped man from dust) and it is possible that the first couple of chapters of Genesis could have happened over millions of years. Because then the rest of the Bible takes place just before and after the first egyptions. But it is also possible that the bible is word for word correct. However, I try not to bug myself too much over this.

    No.
    Amaterasu you used to be a Creationist.

    And for the world, the Big Bang is so utterly disproven even most evolutionist scientists are looking for a new alternative. Even they Don't believe in it anymore.
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    Post by sabaku no ketsueki Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:57

    quater wrote:
    sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
    it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

    When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

    Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.

    I'm just saying how it's a little bit of creation and evolution mixed into one, like scientific proof and religion

    and no, He didn't feed the 5000 people slowly, but didn't the egyptians set up the calendar, anyways?
    Moses said "7 days" but how do we know if it really was 7 days? What about the dinosaurs? Did they appear then die within a 24 hour period?
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    Post by quater Thu Feb 28 2008, 20:59

    sabaku no ketsueki wrote:
    quater wrote:
    sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
    it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

    When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

    Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.

    I'm just saying how it's a little bit of creation and evolution mixed into one, like scientific proof and religion

    and no, He didn't feed the 5000 people slowly, but didn't the egyptians set up the calendar, anyways?
    Moses said "7 days" but how do we know if it really was 7 days? What about the dinosaurs? Did they appear then die within a 24 hour period?

    So stupid...

    Sorry but why do people think Creation lacks Science? It has so much more evidence then Evolution does.

    No. The Dinosaurs went extinct after Noah's Flood. You act like Humans and Dinosaurs couldn't have lived together. Well why not? We have Alligators, why did the Alligator survive, and not a T-Rex then if it was all Evolution?

    And yes, Egyptians Set up the Calendar, based off the Israelite Calendar used before them.

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