Yondaime = Akatsuki Leader?

Oh, it might not be important at all. It could be just a tease. We most likely will never learn the truth about this. It's just meant to fuel these kinds of debates. After all the author is the one who decides whether something is relevant.

I think it will become more important after Akatsuki are done with

yup it probaly will

So until then!

we just have to wait and read

Yeah

Wait, read, watch, explore!

yay exploring!!!!!!!!!!

urgh only two or so days

or not.

Well, my friend OblivionSoul and I have shared several theories on topics like this.

I don't think that he's necessarily the /leader/, but I think that he /does/ have something to do with the Akatsuki. I also believe that he's alive. After all, everyone can tell that Naruto's his son, and with his ability, even without Kyuubi, it's easy to suspect that the Fourth somehow survived the battle with Kyuubi and sealing him inside Naruto. After all, the Fourth used a jutsu that he himself had created to seal the Kyuubi away, so who's to say that he didn't design a back door to something like that?

Like I said earlier, I don't think that he's the leader, but I'm pretty sure that he's alive and has something to do with the Akatsuki. There's a manga page going around -no one knows if it's legit or not, but a lot of people say it might not be, so who knows- that reveals that the Fourth is in fact alive and has something to do with the Akatsuki. Now, I'm not sure if this is a legit page or not. I've heard that it is, and I've heard that it isn't, so I'm not entirely sure. My theory is that the Fourth figured out a way to stay alive or something of the sort and is now affilliated with the Akatsuki in some way.

I want to say a few things conerning the 4th, but I'm afraid they might be spoilers...:/
Could I still post the stuff?
Would you guys mind?

I wouldn't mind. Go ahead.

SPOILER!!!!!








It was in fact proven that Yondaime is Naruto's father. And the part about Paine, or however you spell it, being maybe related could be possible. Naruto's mother had red hair.

But I find it hard to believe that the Yondaime, being Naruto's father, would want to extract the demon from his own son and kill him in the process. And why would he betray the Leaf village? I mean, that's just ridiculous, sorry if I offended someone by saying their ideas were ridiculous, I just find that hard to believe.

If that made no sense what-so-ever, please tell me.
^^-

The funny thing is we're likely never to have
concrete answers to any of these questions. Most likely the Fourth is
Naruto's daddy, but we may never know for sure. Not unless the author
feels it will be relevant to the story. He might be content to let us
wonder forever. If thats his choice I'm fine with it. We couldn't have
these discussions if every thing was always cut and dry.

Spoiler warning.
THe 4th REALLY IS Naruto's dad because in the 370 chapter of the naruto manga Jiraya said:
Minato (the 4th) only sealed the nine-tails YIN chakra using the shiki fuujin. THe very reason why Minato went to the trouble of splitting the nine-taiks chakra into two only sealing the chakra into Naruto, was so that he could leave it to Naruto... Still. Why would one seal the nine-tails chakra in his very own child?...
and in the 367 chapter of the manga. Jiraya and Tsunade where talking about Naruto and His parrents..
Jiraya: It just felt like I was Teaching Minato again.
Tsunade: Namikaze Minato... The resemblance is undeniable... (skipping to the other part of the dialogue)
Tsunade: If I had to choose, I'd say he's much more similar to his mother.
Jiraya: a female ninja of the former whirlpool coultry...
Tsunade: yeah... his personality and ninjutsu style are exactly like Uzumaki Kushina's
Jiraya: I remembered with that res hair the constant jabbering and her tomboyish demeanor, she was just like one of the boys!
Tsunade: But Naruto does look a lot like his father.
So you see^^ Yondaime really is Naruto's dad. It is said in the Naruto manga 367 and 370 chapters
Sorry for the spoilers^^

Tobi is not Madara Uchiha he is Clearly Obito
Titan. Oh and No Tobi can't be the true mastermind Of the akatsuki
since he JUST JOINED IT! He wasn't even in the thing when we first read
about it so how the flip can he be the mastermind? Show me some proof
please that leads to a conclusion that he is the mastermind. Oh also
remember when everyone thought Tobi was dead and the leader was like
yeah Tobi is gone but even sadder yet we lost deidara. He didn't even
care Tobi was dead and if he was the mastermind behind it I think he
would care that he had died.

I personely like the two theories:
1. Tobi is Obito
2: Tobi is the mastermind behind akatsuki
I like them both and personaly I cant decide on which is better. But here is proof that Tobi is the mastermind.

Tobi can't be the true mastermind Of the akatsuki
since he JUST JOINED IT!

Maybe Tobi and Pain had an agreement. If Tobi is really strong he may had to make it a secret, and act like he's just a common ninja with no spetial skills. If he's Madara (we know that Madara lived when Konoha was founded) he may had to discuise himself as Zetsus subordinate not to draw attention. THe only one who maybe had known that Tobi is Madara was Pain.

Oh also
remember when everyone thought Tobi was dead and the leader was like
yeah Tobi is gone

It maybe was just an act when Pain said that.

I agree with Tanuki on this one. It makes a lot of sense, after all... And Oblivion had told me before about the whole 'The Fourth is definately Naruto's dad, since Jiraiya and Tsunade were talking about it' thing, and that makes sense too.

akatsuki leader is revealed its either tobi or uchiha madara

tsukasa wrote:akatsuki leader is revealed its either tobi or uchiha madara

Yep, I agree. But Pain is cuter to be the Leader :study:

Pein is the leader tobi was saying that the leaders failure is not scceptable (which means hes kinda joking saying go kill some people and get this jinchuuriki thing over with)

That was a fanfic. It's not real. Madara is the leader of the Akatsuki.