Yondaime = Akatsuki Leader?

Yeah, so, anyone else think this other than me? I know there's tons of conversations about this everywhere, but no flames please...

Anyways, evidence... first thing off, yes, I know how Akatsuki leader looks nothing like Yondaime, with the red hair, eyes, piercings, and tatoo's. And besides, why would Yondaime go evil anyways?

Ok, well, about the red hair, who else has red hair (or shall i say fur?) that Yondaime has had contact with during his life? Kyuubi! Maybe during the sealing, part of Kyuubi had gone into him instead of Naruto, thus creating the red hair, like when Naruto went four-tails, instead of a red-chakra fox-shaped aura around him, he grew red fur all over.

The eyes... some important character has some wierd looking eye. Byakugan, Sharingan, Mangekyou, Kakashi's Mangekyou, and even Naruto's eyes changed whenever he goes OTK or more. So again with Kyuubi, maybe Yondaime's eye changed permanently.

The piercings and tattoo's... anyone can get those, so that doesn't really matter to me.

But Yondaime gone evil? Again with Kyuubi here. When Naruto uses Kyuubi chakra, he usually has barely any control over it. Likewise with Yondaime, maybe he has no control over himself too.

Well, yeah, so those are just my idea's, it might be possible. Highly unlikely though. :tongue: So again, please no flames...

I don't think so. I think the Akatsuki leader is somehow Naruto's older brother or something that Naruto never knew he had.

first page of the first manga book says:

"Once upon a time, there lived a fox spirit with nine tails. and he was so powerful that whenever he shook those tails landslides and tsunamis would result.

the suffering people gathered the great shinobi clans to fight this menace. finally, risking his life, one ninja was able to imprison its soul.

having defeated the demon, the brave shinobi died.

that shinobi was the fourth hokage, the fire shadow, champion of th village hidden in the leaves."

sorry to every one that believes Yondaime=AL
but he is dead.

Haha

Good thing that wasn't me ^_^

Who knows, anything could be possible. I have heard both that it could be his father or unknown brother. Probably more of a brother.

ummm to tell u they say its The first leader of the Uchiha clan Uchiha Madara

Hmm, well that was unexpected....to me...

I think they are related

Who are related?
Sorry, I cant think straight right now.

Madara and the 4th?
or

Madara and the AL?

Madara?

he has a weird name Ma-Da-Ra

whom

the brave shinobi died

Hm, yeah, that's what they say. But have we actually seen any proof of his death? :?:

Madara? But he's dead now, isn't he? By the way, wasn't Madara one of those huge rock carvings in the valley of death (Can't remember the name, is that right?) where Naruto and Sasuke fought during episodes 132-134?

Actually, we could consider the death of the Third as proof of the Fourth's death. Seeing as the jutsu he used to seal Orochimaru-sama's arms was the same as the one that sealed Kyuubi.

But that said, sealing Kyuubi might have had a different effect than sealing Orochimaru-sama's arms. Maybe when he was sealing Kyuubi, some of it's chakra sorta seeped into Yondaime's body mixing with his own explaining everything like Suigetsu Houzuki said, plus keeping him alive somehow. Especially seeing as Kyuubi has kept Naruto alive countless times.

So I would say that Yondaime being the Akatsuki leader is a definite posibility. But the brother theory is good too...

Just because it claims that he's dead doesn't mean that he is. For one thing, when Orochimaru tried to summon the fourth, he failed. Theory: He's alive. If he really was dead, wouldn't Orochimaru summon him? Also, I heard that the third knew that Yondaime was alive which means why Orochimaru couldn't summon him in the first place. If word got out that the 4th was alive, that could cause trouble in the village. So the third's main reason for battling Orochimaru would be to stop him before he realized that the 4th was alive. (my friend told me all this but I believe it). So Yondaime = Akatsuki learder? High possibility.

All very good. One thing though,the reason the Fourth didn't get revived was cause Sandaime-sama pushed his coffin thing down and stopped Orochimaru from bringing him back ^^

Good point but since it ain't my theory, not my problem. xD I still say he's alive. Although pushing it back may mean Sarutobi did know the 4th was alive. So there's no point in bringing back someone who's not dead.

Good point. Oh well who knows *shrugs*

Masashi Kishimoto does xD

Oh yeah! YaY for Misashi Kishimoto! All hail Misashi Kishimoto! *bows down*

*bows down as well*

Yondaime wrote:Good point but since it ain't my theory, not my problem. xD I still say he's alive. Although pushing it back may mean Sarutobi did know the 4th was alive. So there's no point in bringing back someone who's not dead.

or he didn't want to face three Hokages.
Orochimaru would try and bring back Yondaime if he was the AL because he was in Akatsuki. Plus the third explained the fourths thechnique to us.


oh well arguing is troublesome
i just think he's dead

Yeah but like i said before, sealing the Kyuubi might have had a side effect and kept Yondaime alive.

the kyuubi does has enormous chakra
it might be pausible