Creation Vs Evolution

Sado wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I have yet to see you disprove evolution and prove creation Ama. You keep throwing out the bible as proof, claiming that it's perfect but it's perfection has yet to be proved, or at least shown to me, so evidence if you please. (Oh yeah, Q, I hate to be a pain but did you get that thing from your friend that you said you'd find for me?)
More than that why are you talking down to Saba and insulting her just because she says something you disagree with? Ad Hominem attacks only discredit your arguments.

The Rhetorical term haha.

I just showed you plenty of lines of evidence for the proof of the Bible Sado, if you'd like me to show more. Read up on it yourself. And as for that thing...

Totally forgot about it actually.

You may have provided evidence of proof for the bible on pages when I wasn't actively checking this thread, in which case I totally missed it and I'll have to look back through.

And alright eh, well just try and grab it sometime, it isn't of the utmost priority.

It's not really hypocritical to agree with what the bible says about creation, and what humans say about evolution.

Many people have different opinions on the subject. The bible proves that creation was god's doing. I wouldn't disagree with that. But than do we have SEEING proof that evolution didn't happen?

Evolution is happening still around us today. Do you not notice?

It depends on how you see things.

Sado wrote:You may have provided evidence of proof for the bible on pages when I wasn't actively checking this thread, in which case I totally missed it and I'll have to look back through.

And alright eh, well just try and grab it sometime, it isn't of the utmost priority.

It was a minor point...So yeah.

And I posted it it's on this page I believe.

I have never seen evolution happen sorry Rikku. Are you talking about the swapping of genes?

Sado wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I have yet to see you disprove evolution and prove creation Ama. You keep throwing out the bible as proof, claiming that it's perfect but it's perfection has yet to be proved, or at least shown to me, so evidence if you please. (Oh yeah, Q, I hate to be a pain but did you get that thing from your friend that you said you'd find for me?)
More than that why are you talking down to Saba and insulting her just because she says something you disagree with? Ad Hominem attacks only discredit your arguments.

haha, i guess you right Sado, i haven't proven creation
but in reality i'm no debator
so i'm gonna take a nap over this and come back with some proof (maybe... hopefully)

Amaterasu wrote:

Sado wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I have yet to see you disprove evolution and prove creation Ama. You keep throwing out the bible as proof, claiming that it's perfect but it's perfection has yet to be proved, or at least shown to me, so evidence if you please. (Oh yeah, Q, I hate to be a pain but did you get that thing from your friend that you said you'd find for me?)
More than that why are you talking down to Saba and insulting her just because she says something you disagree with? Ad Hominem attacks only discredit your arguments.

haha, i guess you right Sado, i haven't proven creation
but in reality i'm no debator
so i'm gonna take a nap over this and come back with some proof (maybe... hopefully)

Attakid. Now, nap with honor and good luck with your quest for evidence.

Rikku-San wrote:It's not really hypocritical to agree with what the bible says about creation, and what humans say about evolution.

Many people have different opinions on the subject. The bible proves that creation was god's doing. I wouldn't disagree with that. But than do we have SEEING proof that evolution didn't happen?

Evolution is happening still around us today. Do you not notice?

It depends on how you see things.

I want to ask.

Tell me, Rikku, how do you see things?

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

Give the girl time to think now..

haha
well she has a lot of time to think

No, because you keeping saying

WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG! WRONG! I'm not going to contradict a word in the bible, how could I do that?

It's easy to tune out Science but Religion is a personal thing that steps into deeper territory.

Telling Evolutionists that they are wrong is not going to convert the strong-willed, hardy person. They'll keep fighting until people stop poking holes. Just Standing up for what they/we believe.

Don't hate on that. ^_^

first off
it does contridic because she says i belive the bible is right, but evolution happened. The bible doesn't say evolutioned happened, so she is contradicting herself. Just to let you know, you can be very religeous but not get to heaven. Religion is rules. A relantionship with Jesus, has no rules to apply by ( i mean like go to school or brush your teeth)
because when you accept Jesus into your heart, he becomes your friend and well you start a race (metaphorically of course)
everyone falls off the road into the ditch now and again, but we lkearn from that and we get stronger in faith and we won't make the same mistake again.

I don't see she how i am ignoring science since she never mentioned anything scientifical
now tell me doesn't this

God created everything

contradict or agree with this?

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

seriously thats what she is saying

Is she Christian? I don't know her but maybe that's why. This point was brought up before that she was a theistic evolutionist. If you go back and find the definition of one, she is not contradicting views on the bible/evolution. And I'm sincerely sorry about that, I still have much to learn about Christianity. (Titan screws up another def. Put up Cardboard look-alike and throw the darts!) Thanks, despite it not insulting religion, I still don't want to insult it anyway, you know.
I was seriously scared for Sado's life when he asked about the bible being perfect. She's proven her point multiple times before this with Q, finding more scientific info now to appease you with,when relaxing, would only prove murderous to the mindset.

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

Give the girl time to think now..

haha
well she has a lot of time to think

No, because you keeping saying

WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG! WRONG! I'm not going to contradict a word in the bible, how could I do that?

It's easy to tune out Science but Religion is a personal thing that steps into deeper territory.

Telling Evolutionists that they are wrong is not going to convert the strong-willed, hardy person. They'll keep fighting until people stop poking holes. Just Standing up for what they/we believe.

Don't hate on that. ^_^

first off
it does contridic because she says i belive the bible is right, but evolution happened. The bible doesn't say evolutioned happened, so she is contradicting herself. Just to let you know, you can be very religeous but not get to heaven. Religion is rules. A relantionship with Jesus, has no rules to apply by ( i mean like go to school or brush your teeth)
because when you accept Jesus into your heart, he becomes your friend and well you start a race (metaphorically of course)
everyone falls off the road into the ditch now and again, but we lkearn from that and we get stronger in faith and we won't make the same mistake again.

I don't see she how i am ignoring science since she never mentioned anything scientifical
now tell me doesn't this

God created everything

contradict or agree with this?

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

seriously thats what she is saying

Is she Christian? I don't know her but maybe that's why. This point was brought up before that she was a theistic evolutionist. If you go back and find the definition of one, she is not contradicting views on the bible/evolution. And I'm sincerely sorry about that, I still have much to learn about Christianity. (Titan screws up another def. Put up Cardboard look-alike and throw the darts!) Thanks, despite it not insulting religion, I still don't want to insult it anyway, you know.
I was seriously scared for Sado's life when he asked about the bible being perfect. She's proven her point multiple times before this with Q, finding more scientific info now to appease you with,when relaxing, would only prove murderous to the mindset.

haha, i didn't understand a word of you
but thats ok
i really don't know what sabaku is either
so i'm not gonna pretend like I do
but I do know that the bible is true and it happened

Sado wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Sado wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I have yet to see you disprove evolution and prove creation Ama. You keep throwing out the bible as proof, claiming that it's perfect but it's perfection has yet to be proved, or at least shown to me, so evidence if you please. (Oh yeah, Q, I hate to be a pain but did you get that thing from your friend that you said you'd find for me?)
More than that why are you talking down to Saba and insulting her just because she says something you disagree with? Ad Hominem attacks only discredit your arguments.

haha, i guess you right Sado, i haven't proven creation
but in reality i'm no debator
so i'm gonna take a nap over this and come back with some proof (maybe... hopefully)

Attakid. Now, nap with honor and good luck with your quest for evidence.

i have come back from my nap and other events
I have thought through this and over again.
I came to the conclusion that its very hard for me to provecreation without disproving evolution
evolution has science as its reference
creation has the bible
so the way i can prove it is by quoting the bible. and the only way for me to be disproved is by disproving the bible. In which she said she belives. the problem comes in with evolution. it says nothing about it ever happening in the bible so therefore sabaku cannot actually be saying the truth by saying she believes both.
It is impossible for humans to create something from nothing. We can create something from something but not something from nothing. ANd god can create something from nothing, which since we can't comprehend makes it very hard to prove. However thats where faith comes in. I have faith in the bible, meaning (for anyone who doesn't know and happens to read this)
I believe the bible without seeing it happen personally.
It says (sorry can't remeber where this is found, if someone finds it could you tell me?)
blessed are those who witness theses miracles, but more blessed are those who believe and have not seen them-Jesus
and for my proof that i came up with is Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1-5
genesis 1:1- In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth
John 1:1-5 IN the beginning was the word, and the Word was with GOd, and hte WQord was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it

I disagree with part of you on that Amaterasu.

Creation can be proven easily without the Bible. AT least Intelligent Design.

ok, i was talking bout me proving it woithout the bible is hard for me
i should of singled that out huh?

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I'm begining to see that you don't understand the whole point of any debate
and how is that a condriction? it's not. you CAN have both, you know. it's completely possible.

were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no

irrevalent fact

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so, it is very possible. how have you disproved evolution? I haven't seen that. It seems you don't want to believe that you can have creation and evolution at the same time. If God created everything, what stopped Him from creating the first early humans? How do we know that they were as we are today?

I love how people seem to have ignored me here.

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

Give the girl time to think now..

haha
well she has a lot of time to think

No, because you keeping saying

WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG! WRONG! I'm not going to contradict a word in the bible, how could I do that?

It's easy to tune out Science but Religion is a personal thing that steps into deeper territory.

Telling Evolutionists that they are wrong is not going to convert the strong-willed, hardy person. They'll keep fighting until people stop poking holes. Just Standing up for what they/we believe.

Don't hate on that. ^_^

first off
it does contridic because she says i belive the bible is right, but evolution happened. The bible doesn't say evolutioned happened, so she is contradicting herself. Just to let you know, you can be very religeous but not get to heaven. Religion is rules. A relantionship with Jesus, has no rules to apply by ( i mean like go to school or brush your teeth)
because when you accept Jesus into your heart, he becomes your friend and well you start a race (metaphorically of course)
everyone falls off the road into the ditch now and again, but we lkearn from that and we get stronger in faith and we won't make the same mistake again.

I don't see she how i am ignoring science since she never mentioned anything scientifical
now tell me doesn't this

God created everything

contradict or agree with this?

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

seriously thats what she is saying

Is she Christian? I don't know her but maybe that's why. This point was brought up before that she was a theistic evolutionist. If you go back and find the definition of one, she is not contradicting views on the bible/evolution. And I'm sincerely sorry about that, I still have much to learn about Christianity. (Titan screws up another def. Put up Cardboard look-alike and throw the darts!) Thanks, despite it not insulting religion, I still don't want to insult it anyway, you know.
I was seriously scared for Sado's life when he asked about the bible being perfect. She's proven her point multiple times before this with Q, finding more scientific info now to appease you with,when relaxing, would only prove murderous to the mindset.

Titan, I love you right now
For anyone that cares (and future reference) I am, indeed, a Christian.
Surprised, or not?

quater wrote:I love how people seem to have ignored me here.

.....didn't mean to
lately, I've been arguing with ama in RL, so I'm actually only replying to his stuff at the moment

and titan was being awesome, so I had to reply to that too ^^

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:I love how people seem to have ignored me here.

.....didn't mean to
lately, I've been arguing with ama in RL, so I'm actually only replying to his stuff at the moment

and titan was being awesome, so I had to reply to that too ^^

Not a big deal.

Just see if you can answer my only question ^_^

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:I love how people seem to have ignored me here.

.....didn't mean to
lately, I've been arguing with ama in RL, so I'm actually only replying to his stuff at the moment

and titan was being awesome, so I had to reply to that too ^^

Not a big deal.

Just see if you can answer my only question ^_^

...ok....just let me go find it now ^_^;;

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I'm begining to see that you don't understand the whole point of any debate
and how is that a condriction? it's not. you CAN have both, you know. it's completely possible.

were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no

irrevalent fact

-------
so, it is very possible. how have you disproved evolution? I haven't seen that. It seems you don't want to believe that you can have creation and evolution at the same time. If God created everything, what stopped Him from creating the first early humans? How do we know that they were as we are today?

tell me can you have evil and good existing in the same place?
can you have peace and war in teh same place?

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

Give the girl time to think now..

haha
well she has a lot of time to think

No, because you keeping saying

WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG! WRONG! I'm not going to contradict a word in the bible, how could I do that?

It's easy to tune out Science but Religion is a personal thing that steps into deeper territory.

Telling Evolutionists that they are wrong is not going to convert the strong-willed, hardy person. They'll keep fighting until people stop poking holes. Just Standing up for what they/we believe.

Don't hate on that. ^_^

first off
it does contridic because she says i belive the bible is right, but evolution happened. The bible doesn't say evolutioned happened, so she is contradicting herself. Just to let you know, you can be very religeous but not get to heaven. Religion is rules. A relantionship with Jesus, has no rules to apply by ( i mean like go to school or brush your teeth)
because when you accept Jesus into your heart, he becomes your friend and well you start a race (metaphorically of course)
everyone falls off the road into the ditch now and again, but we lkearn from that and we get stronger in faith and we won't make the same mistake again.

I don't see she how i am ignoring science since she never mentioned anything scientifical
now tell me doesn't this

God created everything

contradict or agree with this?

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

seriously thats what she is saying

Is she Christian? I don't know her but maybe that's why. This point was brought up before that she was a theistic evolutionist. If you go back and find the definition of one, she is not contradicting views on the bible/evolution. And I'm sincerely sorry about that, I still have much to learn about Christianity. (Titan screws up another def. Put up Cardboard look-alike and throw the darts!) Thanks, despite it not insulting religion, I still don't want to insult it anyway, you know.
I was seriously scared for Sado's life when he asked about the bible being perfect. She's proven her point multiple times before this with Q, finding more scientific info now to appease you with,when relaxing, would only prove murderous to the mindset.

The freedom?

I beg you one time to show me she proved her point. If anything I have multiple times disregarded her points.

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I'm begining to see that you don't understand the whole point of any debate
and how is that a condriction? it's not. you CAN have both, you know. it's completely possible.

were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no

irrevalent fact

-------
so, it is very possible. how have you disproved evolution? I haven't seen that. It seems you don't want to believe that you can have creation and evolution at the same time. If God created everything, what stopped Him from creating the first early humans? How do we know that they were as we are today?

tell me can you have evil and good existing in the same place?
can you have peace and war in teh same place?

ok, seriously, why are you so opposed to the concept of evolution?

quater wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

Titaniumxvx wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

Give the girl time to think now..

haha
well she has a lot of time to think

No, because you keeping saying

WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG! WRONG! I'm not going to contradict a word in the bible, how could I do that?

It's easy to tune out Science but Religion is a personal thing that steps into deeper territory.

Telling Evolutionists that they are wrong is not going to convert the strong-willed, hardy person. They'll keep fighting until people stop poking holes. Just Standing up for what they/we believe.

Don't hate on that. ^_^

first off
it does contridic because she says i belive the bible is right, but evolution happened. The bible doesn't say evolutioned happened, so she is contradicting herself. Just to let you know, you can be very religeous but not get to heaven. Religion is rules. A relantionship with Jesus, has no rules to apply by ( i mean like go to school or brush your teeth)
because when you accept Jesus into your heart, he becomes your friend and well you start a race (metaphorically of course)
everyone falls off the road into the ditch now and again, but we lkearn from that and we get stronger in faith and we won't make the same mistake again.

I don't see she how i am ignoring science since she never mentioned anything scientifical
now tell me doesn't this

God created everything

contradict or agree with this?

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

seriously thats what she is saying

Is she Christian? I don't know her but maybe that's why. This point was brought up before that she was a theistic evolutionist. If you go back and find the definition of one, she is not contradicting views on the bible/evolution. And I'm sincerely sorry about that, I still have much to learn about Christianity. (Titan screws up another def. Put up Cardboard look-alike and throw the darts!) Thanks, despite it not insulting religion, I still don't want to insult it anyway, you know.
I was seriously scared for Sado's life when he asked about the bible being perfect. She's proven her point multiple times before this with Q, finding more scientific info now to appease you with,when relaxing, would only prove murderous to the mindset.

The freedom?

I beg you one time to show me she proved her point. If anything I have multiple times disregarded her points.

and here I was feeling good about myself
we've clashed, but I don't think either one of us really agreed with the other on anything....

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

Hey Sabaku.

Why do you think Evolution happened?

ah, this question

well, that is a very good question, Q, and I shall try to answer it in the time I have before getting kickd off the computer =D

well, in history class, (I guess this would be one of the major factors) we were presented with evidence, pictures and such, of the bones and other remains of early humans.

though I think it is HIGHLY unlikely that some random cell decided, "hey! let's evolve today!" but I think that God did create early humans. Even now, animals are evolving to adapt to their environments, so I think that the same thing happened with humans.
basic theory: God created homo-habilus (or whoever our early ancestors were). We evolved from there

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I'm begining to see that you don't understand the whole point of any debate
and how is that a condriction? it's not. you CAN have both, you know. it's completely possible.

were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no

irrevalent fact

-------
so, it is very possible. how have you disproved evolution? I haven't seen that. It seems you don't want to believe that you can have creation and evolution at the same time. If God created everything, what stopped Him from creating the first early humans? How do we know that they were as we are today?

tell me can you have evil and good existing in the same place?
can you have peace and war in teh same place?

ok, seriously, why are you so opposed to the concept of evolution?

because it didn't happen

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kazekage*Gaara wrote:I beleive evolution is a theory created by scientists to try and come up with an explanation for them not being able to take credit for creating the human race themselves. It does say God created the earth, and right now I stand by that point. But I suppose that is just my opinion. :] One out of so many.

God created everything, yes
but to my knowledge, evolution did happen

do you actually proof?
a actually full body of a all the specimens that humans evolved from to now would prove your poi nt otherwise, face it, it didn't happen

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it
I'm not saying the bible is wrong, though. I'm just saying humans have evolved from the early humanoids to who we are today. God created everything, and that seems to be common ground for us. So if I was an evolutionist, why am I saying I believe God created everything?

And no, it's not trying to please everyone. I don't really care if you're pleased or not. This is just something that makes the most sense to me

this

evolution did happen, and there's no way around it

contridicts
this

I'm not saying the bible is wrong

you can't say both
its like saying
I support Hitler's cause
but the americans are doing the right thing


its like saying i support good but i like doing sinful things better
you hypocrite how can you think your way is right?
were you the one who created the heavens and the earth?
NO
that was the Lord our father
were you the one who was and is and is to come?
No
that is our Lord
were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no
so don't say evolution happened, becausethe Bible says God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1)
and don't get started o this, oh but theres proof and such and such because you have no proof, because we have asked you already and you keep repeting the same words. How is that proof? We Disproved you and proved our sides, but yet you harden yourself.

I'm begining to see that you don't understand the whole point of any debate
and how is that a condriction? it's not. you CAN have both, you know. it's completely possible.

were you the one who spoke to man and told them to write the bible, the word of god, that will not pass away even though the earth and the heavens will be burned up and replaced new ones?
no

irrevalent fact

-------
so, it is very possible. how have you disproved evolution? I haven't seen that. It seems you don't want to believe that you can have creation and evolution at the same time. If God created everything, what stopped Him from creating the first early humans? How do we know that they were as we are today?

tell me can you have evil and good existing in the same place?
can you have peace and war in teh same place?

ok, seriously, why are you so opposed to the concept of evolution?

Because it takes away responsibility. And not only that, but it slaps the amazingness out of our God.