Creation Vs Evolution

Yuriishi_Yhun wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:God created the earth and all of everything in seven days, right?

but what if they weren't 24 hour days? More like, millions of years in between, so the "days" would simply be metaphorical

Lesse... Whenever a number is used in the Bible along with the term "day" it means that it was a literal 24 hour period.

I like this kid.

Oh and for Micro Evolution. The deal is they don't evolve. If ya want to debate it we can cause I can prove I am right.

You know, in the bible, it acutually says that God's days are equal to 1000 years

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:You know, in the bible, it acutually says that God's days are equal to 1000 years

Show me the verse pretty please.

Oh and also might I add it's true that God sees time differently then we do for he has the Omnis (omniprescient, omniscient, and Omnipotent) however he used the same day for day no matter what the day was.

hm, my friend told me that, I shall find the verse for you

And where does it say that His days are only 24 hours? He does see time differently, therefore it is simplified for us, so a day to us could really be 1000 years.

It doesn't matter how He sees time seeing as He is outside of time... Time has no affect on Him, that's why His days are like a thousand days to us. (I think the verse is in Psalms...)

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:hm, my friend told me that, I shall find the verse for you

And where does it say that His days are only 24 hours? He does see time differently, therefore it is simplified for us, so a day to us could really be 1000 years.

Simply this. The same day he says when he said travel around that giant city with the walls (I can't believe I forgot that name) is the same terminology for days he uses for when he says I made the Earth in 7 days. Now either they travelled around it for billions of years, or they did it in 6 days like he said and he created the Earth in 6 days like he said.

Afterall, God isn't retarded he understands humans and him see time differently he wouldn't say I made it in 7 days if it were really 15 billion years that would be lying.

but how do we know the days are same? Just becasue He used to term "day" twice, it doesn't mean He meant the same thing.

And no, it wouldn't be lying, it would be simplifing it for us, since people back then wouldn't be able to grasp the concept of so many years. The bible was written for those types of people, so it says "days" so we can better understand the creation of everything.

It's Jericho...

I think I said something like that earlier only without an example....

Yuriishi_Yhun wrote:It's Jericho...

I think I said something like that earlier only without an example....

But I said it on the first page ^_^

Oh and to you. Look they can grasp infinite stretches of time just as well as we can. Just because they didn't have a term for billion they did have one for million. Those people were able to grasp math and long periods of time just as well as we can. They had the same abilities as we could. Don't call them simpler just because they didn't explore every realm of education like we had.

And look you can say God meant 15 billion years and that's nice and all but their is no Biblical proof for it. Sorry. I tend to use Bible and science.

to me, eh?

well, you, I'm saying they didn't explore the realm education, therefore they probably wouldn't understand the concept of billions or years.

or hell, maybe I'm wrong!

but I still think God's days are more than just days.

No proof = faith

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:to me, eh?

well, you, I'm saying they didn't explore the realm education, therefore they probably wouldn't understand the concept of billions or years.

or hell, maybe I'm wrong!

but I still think God's days are more than just days.

No proof = faith

Well simply this. Those people were as human as you and I are. They are able to grasp the concept as well as we can.

That's what I know for sure.

But relax. You are entitled to yours and I am mine. Why I hate this thread.

they were human, but does that mean they understood the world as well as you and me?

and yes, we are intitled to our opinions, and no matter how much we are going to fight, you know I still love you ^^

Yeah I understand

And they had as much of a compacity to as we do. Besides if God had to he could have said I made it in a very long spanse of time. Afterall wasn't there and army where he said something like a thousand thousands or something? If they comprehended that they could comprehend the other.

Besides he wouldn't say 7 days if it took a while it's goofy!

true

but, this is the beginning of time. Since then, we have discovered new things, learned new things, and now we know more than our ancestors, right?

And maybe the earlier generations did understand that concept, though I doubt it, but we'll never know for sure, will we?

It's all opinions these days

I think they did. And I know we know more but they could of understood a billion. It was a concept.

The thing is though prove to me that Evolution exists. Can you?

Can anybody, really?

Well, I have another theory about Evolution, sorta

It's called theistical evolutionist. would you like to know?

Not really but say it anyway.

that's encouraging

well, it's like this: God created everything, 7 days, 7 million years, whatever!

He created the first humans, too, but not as we are now. He created homo-habilus, and then we evolved from there

I'd like to hear it

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:that's encouraging

well, it's like this: God created everything, 7 days, 7 million years, whatever!

He created the first humans, too, but not as we are now. He created homo-habilus, and then we evolved from there

I don't think so...

Tch...

It's a nice theory it really is. But there just isn't enough evidence for it...But I wont fight your idea lest you ask me too.

well, Q, what's your overall opinion?

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:well, Q, what's your overall opinion?

I don't believe it.

I didn't think you would

I mean like, everything we've said, sum it up into your overall opinion

*eats popcorn* I don't have anything to say right now... It's the weekend... *sits in bleachers*

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:I didn't think you would

I mean like, everything we've said, sum it up into your overall opinion

Well.

I believe you are in favor of trying to get both Christianity and Evolution to work together. However I am strict Creationalism and Christianity. I believe Evolution was created by a Man who admitted himself he wanted to destroy the "Religious Dogma" and the evidence sense is no more then there was then.