Creation Vs Evolution

Kurokumo wrote:...I'm sorry....
Q-kun... I...I...
...I'm so sorry...
But isn't that a little prejiduce? I mean... Well, you know what, I'll keep it to myself...

^-^

quater wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:Nobody's perfect, Q-sama! Not even God. If God was perfect, then we wouldn't have Bush on this planet! (Okay, THAT was mean... I'm sorry...)
And besides, if we have a God that's perfect, I'd hate him. I'm against perfectionism.... Hence the reason I believe that... I'm sorry...
^-^ Is something wrong with you today, Q-sama? You seem to be acting... Out of character, no offense... I'm sorry...

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I just thought of the weirdest thing... If I was the Migrant Village of the Sun's Kage...
Kurokumo... means black cloud...
...Do you or do you not see that irony?!

Are you kidding? JESUS IS PERFECT! That's the whole point of Salvation.

Make fun of President Bush again I dare ya.

I am fine but I am a debator.

Kurokumo wrote:...I'm sorry....
Q-kun... I...I...
...I'm so sorry...
But isn't that a little prejiduce? I mean... Well, you know what, I'll keep it to myself...

^-^

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

death-chan wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

death-chan wrote:Do you think God wanted it to be this way? Bush, anarchy, genocide, disease?

I'm inserting myself in the convo. yay!

and probably not, but He gave man free will to do as we see fit, and well, this is what we've come up with

lol, hey.

hence why kurokumo cannot say that God is not perfect because it was our own faults why we have Bush

I'll Kill you.
President Bush is far better then the alternatives and is a fine President.

whoa....there's a reponse totally unexpected from Q

It's totally irrelevant and bias out of nowhere on this thread. Plus, He is to a fine President.

Banouin wrote:

quater wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:Nobody's perfect, Q-sama! Not even God. If God was perfect, then we wouldn't have Bush on this planet! (Okay, THAT was mean... I'm sorry...)
And besides, if we have a God that's perfect, I'd hate him. I'm against perfectionism.... Hence the reason I believe that... I'm sorry...
^-^ Is something wrong with you today, Q-sama? You seem to be acting... Out of character, no offense... I'm sorry...

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I just thought of the weirdest thing... If I was the Migrant Village of the Sun's Kage...
Kurokumo... means black cloud...
...Do you or do you not see that irony?!

Are you kidding? JESUS IS PERFECT! That's the whole point of Salvation.

Make fun of President Bush again I dare ya.

I am fine but I am a debator.

Um Q Jesus was a MAN, In no way was he, We As MAN are not perfect, yes he is a good guy and did alot of things, But in no way Do i think he was perfect. Only God Was

Kurokumo wrote:HOLD IT!! WHY THE HELL ARE WE HAVING A FLIPPING DEBATE ABOUT THIS, ANYWAYS?! WTF?! BESIDES,EVERYONE IS FLIPPING ENTITLED TO THIER OWN OPINIONS!! Q-KUN, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT!!
BESIDES, WHO CARES IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION!! WHO CARES IF GOD IS PERFECT?! WE HAVE A FREAKING LIFE, PEOPLE!! TALK SBOUT SOMETHING IMPOTANT!! MOVE ON FROM THIS SUBJECT!! HOLY FREAKING CRAP!!
...Huff... Huff... I guess you can say I'm annoyed... Ahahaha... Sorry...

quater wrote:

Banouin wrote:

quater wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:Nobody's perfect, Q-sama! Not even God. If God was perfect, then we wouldn't have Bush on this planet! (Okay, THAT was mean... I'm sorry...)
And besides, if we have a God that's perfect, I'd hate him. I'm against perfectionism.... Hence the reason I believe that... I'm sorry...
^-^ Is something wrong with you today, Q-sama? You seem to be acting... Out of character, no offense... I'm sorry...

____________________________________________________
I just thought of the weirdest thing... If I was the Migrant Village of the Sun's Kage...
Kurokumo... means black cloud...
...Do you or do you not see that irony?!

Are you kidding? JESUS IS PERFECT! That's the whole point of Salvation.

Make fun of President Bush again I dare ya.

I am fine but I am a debator.

Um Q Jesus was a MAN, In no way was he, We As MAN are not perfect, yes he is a good guy and did alot of things, But in no way Do i think he was perfect. Only God Was

God made Jesus. He is God in flesh. He was the perfect man. It's basically the whole point of the Bible. We as men do fail, but since he is God in Man's flesh, he was percfect, and resisted the urge to sin something we could never do so we could have a way to the father.

Kurokumo wrote:HOLD IT!! WHY THE HELL ARE WE HAVING A FLIPPING DEBATE ABOUT THIS, ANYWAYS?! WTF?! BESIDES,EVERYONE IS FLIPPING ENTITLED TO THIER OWN OPINIONS!! Q-KUN, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT!!
BESIDES, WHO CARES IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION!! WHO CARES IF GOD IS PERFECT?! WE HAVE A FREAKING LIFE, PEOPLE!! TALK SBOUT SOMETHING IMPOTANT!! MOVE ON FROM THIS SUBJECT!! HOLY FREAKING CRAP!!
...Huff... Huff... I guess you can say I'm annoyed... Ahahaha... Sorry...

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:HOLD IT!! WHY THE HELL ARE WE HAVING A FLIPPING DEBATE ABOUT THIS, ANYWAYS?! WTF?! BESIDES,EVERYONE IS FLIPPING ENTITLED TO THIER OWN OPINIONS!! Q-KUN, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT!!
BESIDES, WHO CARES IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION!! WHO CARES IF GOD IS PERFECT?! WE HAVE A FREAKING LIFE, PEOPLE!! TALK SBOUT SOMETHING IMPOTANT!! MOVE ON FROM THIS SUBJECT!! HOLY FREAKING CRAP!!
...Huff... Huff... I guess you can say I'm annoyed... Ahahaha... Sorry...

what you need to realize, dearest Kuro, is that when debating with Q, be prepared to yell at the computer, smash your head against a wall, then answer in a calm, cool manner

quater wrote:

death-chan wrote:

quater wrote:

death-chan wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

death-chan wrote:Do you think God wanted it to be this way? Bush, anarchy, genocide, disease?

I'm inserting myself in the convo. yay!

and probably not, but He gave man free will to do as we see fit, and well, this is what we've come up with

lol, hey.

hence why kurokumo cannot say that God is not perfect because it was our own faults why we have Bush

I'll Kill you.
President Bush is far better then the alternatives and is a fine President.

Go ahead kill me.
Maybe. Bush just has never appealed to me and the Constitution as well as the Declaration of Human Rights allows me to voice my own opinion as long as there is no intent to bring harm to him

Of course it does. And I can once again ask you one thing he has done wrong and wait for you to look like an idiot when you can't name anything ^_^

Banouin wrote:

quater wrote:

Banouin wrote:

quater wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:Nobody's perfect, Q-sama! Not even God. If God was perfect, then we wouldn't have Bush on this planet! (Okay, THAT was mean... I'm sorry...)
And besides, if we have a God that's perfect, I'd hate him. I'm against perfectionism.... Hence the reason I believe that... I'm sorry...
^-^ Is something wrong with you today, Q-sama? You seem to be acting... Out of character, no offense... I'm sorry...

____________________________________________________
I just thought of the weirdest thing... If I was the Migrant Village of the Sun's Kage...
Kurokumo... means black cloud...
...Do you or do you not see that irony?!

Are you kidding? JESUS IS PERFECT! That's the whole point of Salvation.

Make fun of President Bush again I dare ya.

I am fine but I am a debator.

Um Q Jesus was a MAN, In no way was he, We As MAN are not perfect, yes he is a good guy and did alot of things, But in no way Do i think he was perfect. Only God Was

God made Jesus. He is God in flesh. He was the perfect man. It's basically the whole point of the Bible. We as men do fail, but since he is God in Man's flesh, he was percfect, and resisted the urge to sin something we could never do so we could have a way to the father.

And just as He was made of God, So are we. How can you say that he was he was a man just like all of us, he did fail and still do and yes he was sent to so we would have a way to god. But in all his time you cant say he did nothing wrong. God made him a man, as he did with us, When he did die for us it made it so even if we do sin we do have a way to God.

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:HOLD IT!! WHY THE HELL ARE WE HAVING A FLIPPING DEBATE ABOUT THIS, ANYWAYS?! WTF?! BESIDES,EVERYONE IS FLIPPING ENTITLED TO THIER OWN OPINIONS!! Q-KUN, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT!!
BESIDES, WHO CARES IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION!! WHO CARES IF GOD IS PERFECT?! WE HAVE A FREAKING LIFE, PEOPLE!! TALK SBOUT SOMETHING IMPOTANT!! MOVE ON FROM THIS SUBJECT!! HOLY FREAKING CRAP!!
...Huff... Huff... I guess you can say I'm annoyed... Ahahaha... Sorry...

what you need to realize, dearest Kuro, is that when debating with Q, be prepared to yell at the computer, smash your head against a wall, then answer in a calm, cool manner

You make me sound like I am an idiot who can't understand basic concepts. But if it makes you feel better I usually want to do the same at my compute to you guys too ^_^

death-chan wrote:

quater wrote:

death-chan wrote:

quater wrote:

death-chan wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

death-chan wrote:Do you think God wanted it to be this way? Bush, anarchy, genocide, disease?

I'm inserting myself in the convo. yay!

and probably not, but He gave man free will to do as we see fit, and well, this is what we've come up with

lol, hey.

hence why kurokumo cannot say that God is not perfect because it was our own faults why we have Bush

I'll Kill you.
President Bush is far better then the alternatives and is a fine President.

Go ahead kill me.
Maybe. Bush just has never appealed to me and the Constitution as well as the Declaration of Human Rights allows me to voice my own opinion as long as there is no intent to bring harm to him

Of course it does. And I can once again ask you one thing he has done wrong and wait for you to look like an idiot when you can't name anything ^_^

You overestimate me Kazekage. Of course I am a bumbling idiot.

Like the No child left behind crap. I admire his effort on closing the gaps but I don't think it's very effective. He cannot change students' work and homework ethics and crap and unless he can change their views and all that I don't think it's worth it.
And calling those three countries (I forget, i think they were Iran, Iraq, and NK) the axis of evil, that was a bit harsh.

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:HOLD IT!! WHY THE HELL ARE WE HAVING A FLIPPING DEBATE ABOUT THIS, ANYWAYS?! WTF?! BESIDES,EVERYONE IS FLIPPING ENTITLED TO THIER OWN OPINIONS!! Q-KUN, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT!!
BESIDES, WHO CARES IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION!! WHO CARES IF GOD IS PERFECT?! WE HAVE A FREAKING LIFE, PEOPLE!! TALK SBOUT SOMETHING IMPOTANT!! MOVE ON FROM THIS SUBJECT!! HOLY FREAKING CRAP!!
...Huff... Huff... I guess you can say I'm annoyed... Ahahaha... Sorry...

what you need to realize, dearest Kuro, is that when debating with Q, be prepared to yell at the computer, smash your head against a wall, then answer in a calm, cool manner

You make me sound like I am an idiot who can't understand basic concepts. But if it makes you feel better I usually want to do the same at my compute to you guys too ^_^

naw, I mean your arguements are usually pretty damn good, so I know I need to take a minute to try to counter them

quater wrote:

Banouin wrote:

quater wrote:

Banouin wrote:

quater wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:Nobody's perfect, Q-sama! Not even God. If God was perfect, then we wouldn't have Bush on this planet! (Okay, THAT was mean... I'm sorry...)
And besides, if we have a God that's perfect, I'd hate him. I'm against perfectionism.... Hence the reason I believe that... I'm sorry...
^-^ Is something wrong with you today, Q-sama? You seem to be acting... Out of character, no offense... I'm sorry...

____________________________________________________
I just thought of the weirdest thing... If I was the Migrant Village of the Sun's Kage...
Kurokumo... means black cloud...
...Do you or do you not see that irony?!

Are you kidding? JESUS IS PERFECT! That's the whole point of Salvation.

Make fun of President Bush again I dare ya.

I am fine but I am a debator.

Um Q Jesus was a MAN, In no way was he, We As MAN are not perfect, yes he is a good guy and did alot of things, But in no way Do i think he was perfect. Only God Was

God made Jesus. He is God in flesh. He was the perfect man. It's basically the whole point of the Bible. We as men do fail, but since he is God in Man's flesh, he was percfect, and resisted the urge to sin something we could never do so we could have a way to the father.

And just as He was made of God, So are we. How can you say that he was he was a man just like all of us, he did fail and still do and yes he was sent to so we would have a way to god. But in all his time you cant say he did nothing wrong. God made him a man, as he did with us, When he did die for us it made it so even if we do sin we do have a way to God.

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Here's the catch. We are made between man and woman. He was born of a Virgin. Thus his father is heavenly, unlike ours.

Yes I can. He says it, and name one thing he has done wrong? Just because it's unbelievable, it's the point. And yes, he made a way. But point to me one wrong.

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

Kurokumo wrote:HOLD IT!! WHY THE HELL ARE WE HAVING A FLIPPING DEBATE ABOUT THIS, ANYWAYS?! WTF?! BESIDES,EVERYONE IS FLIPPING ENTITLED TO THIER OWN OPINIONS!! Q-KUN, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT!!
BESIDES, WHO CARES IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION!! WHO CARES IF GOD IS PERFECT?! WE HAVE A FREAKING LIFE, PEOPLE!! TALK SBOUT SOMETHING IMPOTANT!! MOVE ON FROM THIS SUBJECT!! HOLY FREAKING CRAP!!
...Huff... Huff... I guess you can say I'm annoyed... Ahahaha... Sorry...

what you need to realize, dearest Kuro, is that when debating with Q, be prepared to yell at the computer, smash your head against a wall, then answer in a calm, cool manner

You make me sound like I am an idiot who can't understand basic concepts. But if it makes you feel better I usually want to do the same at my compute to you guys too ^_^

naw, I mean your arguements are usually pretty damn good, so I know I need to take a minute to try to counter them

If you people quit disagreeing with me in the first place it'd just make things alot easier on both ends I think.

TheFirstKnight wrote:speaking of god, god must be angry a lot if he doesn't like all of these things.

quater wrote:

death-chan wrote:

quater wrote:

death-chan wrote:

quater wrote:

death-chan wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

death-chan wrote:Do you think God wanted it to be this way? Bush, anarchy, genocide, disease?

I'm inserting myself in the convo. yay!

and probably not, but He gave man free will to do as we see fit, and well, this is what we've come up with

lol, hey.

hence why kurokumo cannot say that God is not perfect because it was our own faults why we have Bush

I'll Kill you.
President Bush is far better then the alternatives and is a fine President.

Go ahead kill me.
Maybe. Bush just has never appealed to me and the Constitution as well as the Declaration of Human Rights allows me to voice my own opinion as long as there is no intent to bring harm to him

Of course it does. And I can once again ask you one thing he has done wrong and wait for you to look like an idiot when you can't name anything ^_^

You overestimate me Kazekage. Of course I am a bumbling idiot.

Like the No child left behind crap. I admire his effort on closing the gaps but I don't think it's very effective. He cannot change students' work and homework ethics and crap and unless he can change their views and all that I don't think it's worth it.
And calling those three countries (I forget, i think they were Iran, Iraq, and NK) the axis of evil, that was a bit harsh.

Harsh? You realize if those three countries got Nuclear Warheads they would destroy the US of A right? But sure, we wouldn't want to call them a name...That'd be harsh.

And as for the No Child Left Behind Act. No actually it's worked it gets a lot of schools a lot more money. The Reason it doesn't work perfectly, is not because of President Bush, but because Public Schools in General fail.

quater wrote:

Amaterasu wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:

quater wrote:

sabaku no ketsueki wrote:basically, yeah
it's "the best of both worlds", I suppose you could say

When God created bread for the people of Israel in the Desert, did he do it slowly? When God fed the 5000 did he make the break evolve? When God does things, he doesn't do it slowly he can do things instantly.

Why on Earth, would God want to do it over millions of years? HE said he did it in 7 days, because he was setting up the first human calendar week and he did it in 7 days. Honestly, it's a simple book to get, but it's so critical don't water it down with this "Best of both world's stuff" because you don't want to offend anyone, and don't believe it.

I'm just saying how it's a little bit of creation and evolution mixed into one, like scientific proof and religion

and no, He didn't feed the 5000 people slowly, but didn't the egyptians set up the calendar, anyways?
Moses said "7 days" but how do we know if it really was 7 days? What about the dinosaurs? Did they appear then die within a 24 hour period?

no evolution is kinda weird and i'm not saying its a bit of both at all, it might be that teh homo-hibilis.erectus were god shaping us but we will never know
as for the calendar it was 7 days, it wasn't 7 years or he would have said 7 days. the dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible in the ld testement actually and the new-testement for a matter of fact.

Or God made us as Homo Sapians. Problem with Homo Hillbillies is that there is no evidence of fossils that show evolution from the hillbilly to Man today. I haved looked everywhere but everytime there is it's "A tooth" Manmade, or it's just a regular one smashed in by a rock.

Scientists have even Said that Pig ears were part of a human Skull. In reality they have no clue. People wonder why America is behind in Science maybe because we spend all our time trying to Prove God wrong and we are failing?