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    Post by quater Fri May 23 2008, 19:43

    You guys know what we are here for so state your opinions.

    The heads are:
    Shugo - Number one acadamy teacher
    Renden - Clan leader
    ItachiUchiha - Clan leader
    Itachifan - Council Member and head of special interests
    Menchimonser - News cheif and Advert agency Runner

    Members of interest who should comment if they feel they want, but are not required to.
    Shinobi's redemption - Was a long time Mist ninja and Sand's first honored nin
    Jake989 - Strong Sand Loyal
    Choushi - Strong Sand Loyal
    YuriishiYhun - Head Recruiter
    KatannaSan - Strong Sand Loyal
    Saiyo - Strong Sand Loyal
    Destroyer of Souls - Strong Sand loyal
    Banouin - Strong Sand Loyal
    Angelic harmony - My B...

    That is all I can imagine for now. Others can post here and watch the events unfold, but you may get ignored.

    This is public because I feel our actions should not take into hiding yet, we have nothing to hide from general sand, and I would like them to not feel the leaders of Sand concocted this in the dead of night.

    First thing we should do is find out all we know. Then I would say weigh the different opinions, and finally come to a majority or strong majority decision.


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    Post by Shugo Fri May 23 2008, 19:52

    ok well first thing i wnat to say i dont trust jose but jsut like in
    world war 2 with the us we have to choose the lesser of 2 evils

    on one hand we have shadow they come across as arrogant, overconfident and agressive, this is why they are a threat

    on the other we have mist and there swordsman they seem to be all to eager to want us to join them as there ally. this could be a trap yet it could give us a opportunity to gain intelligence on them
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    Post by Renden2005 Fri May 23 2008, 19:56

    i believe that neutrality for the time being is the best option becausewe can keep both on our good sides...and then when one of them is showing weakness we join the weaker one to dominate the opponent and show our power...its a better position stregically in my opinion...
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    Post by Shugo Fri May 23 2008, 19:58

    how is that a good stratagy?????
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    Post by Renden2005 Fri May 23 2008, 20:02

    we stay out of the way between the two main quarreling parties...and then bring the weaker of the two out of the ground as they are being beaten...it keeps us full health for later and we show our strength by saving the weaker one, then we can keep the weaker one under our thumbs with it as well...
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    Post by Banouin Fri May 23 2008, 20:04

    Tbh, War would be fun, But I say if anything, To join the weaker, Would only make sand weaker. The Weaker always dies 1st thats how it always is and how it should stay if you ask me.
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    Post by quater Fri May 23 2008, 20:04

    Logically Renden, if we tell Mist and Jose we want to remain Neutral that will immediately turn Mist against us. So No, that wont keep both on our good sides.

    I agree with Shugo. We have the Nazi's who deal an imminent threat, and we have the Soviet Union. I think we should deal with the Nazi's first.

    Also, Renden you are saying we have to save the weak one, but if that's mist, they will be ticked we didn't join them earlier and blame us for the beating they got and will be more likely to turn on us.
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    Post by Shugo Fri May 23 2008, 20:04

    Renden2005 wrote:we stay out of the way between the two main quarreling parties...and then bring the weaker of the two out of the ground as they are being beaten...it keeps us full health for later and we show our strength by saving the weaker one, then we can keep the weaker one under our thumbs with it as well...

    that makes no freedoming sense, if we were to wait too long then we are leaving our selfs open to and alone that is not a stratagy good stratagy
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    Post by Renden2005 Fri May 23 2008, 20:07

    fine...i am no help...*leaves*
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    Post by quater Fri May 23 2008, 20:09

    If that's what you want. No one told you to leave.
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    Post by Renden2005 Fri May 23 2008, 20:17

    good luck against Shadow guys...i see no reason to fight...
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    Post by quater Fri May 23 2008, 20:20

    Funny thing is I sent the PM just before I saw that post.


    Had I seen it...Good thing I didn't is all I know.
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    Post by jake989 Fri May 23 2008, 20:59

    Nvm, I thought this was if we need to go to war or not...dumb me

    I f'ed up

    I believe we should join neither, but take on Shadow. If Mist wants to help us then let them, but if not hopefully they'll stay out of it.


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    Post by Renden2005 Fri May 23 2008, 21:02

    nvm what???
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    Post by quater Fri May 23 2008, 21:09

    jake989 wrote:Nvm, I thought this was if we need to go to war or not...dumb me

    I f'ed up

    I believe we should join neither, but take on Shadow. If Mist wants to help us then let them, but if not hopefully they'll stay out of it.

    Mhm.

    And yes, it's also asking if we should go to war, that hasn't been completely decided, I think we should but if you can prove we shouldn't I'll listen.
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    Post by jake989 Fri May 23 2008, 21:10

    Well, I'm all for war, but if we could somehow ally with Shadow, I think that would help us take out Mist a lot faster.

    After that we could give it some time, then mabye turn on Shadow?

    But I do believe war is best right now.
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    Post by Angelic Harmony Fri May 23 2008, 21:17

    I dont see why you dont let Mist and Shadow battle this out. What has Mist & shadow ever do for us? Plus we are trying to TAKE down Mist. How does this help?
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    Post by jake989 Fri May 23 2008, 21:19

    If we wait then one of the two will be very angry that we didn't help. So we should ally with one of the two, and take out the other then take out them, so we've taken both villages out in a very easy manner.


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    Post by Banouin Fri May 23 2008, 21:19

    jake989 wrote:Well, I'm all for war, but if we could somehow ally with Shadow, I think that would help us take out Mist a lot faster.

    After that we could give it some time, then mabye turn on Shadow?

    But I do believe war is best right now.

    We could ally with shadow then after we take mist out..Have war on Shadow?
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    Post by quater Fri May 23 2008, 21:20

    Shadow has yet to come to me with an alliance proposal. So I really don't see how we can discuss allying with them.

    As for Mist, they did come to me, so I would say they get first ally dibses.

    I really shoulda added Charm's name too...forgetful Q.
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    Post by jake989 Fri May 23 2008, 21:22

    Yes, or we could ally with Mist, taking out the more difficult village then turn on Mist.
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    Post by quater Fri May 23 2008, 21:22

    jake989 wrote:Yes, or we could ally with Mist, taking out the more difficult village then turn on Mist.

    But, we may be able to control mist, without taking them out Evil Plan

    I have a bit of an idea.
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    Post by Banouin Fri May 23 2008, 21:22

    quater wrote:Shadow has yet to come to me with an alliance proposal. So I really don't see how we can discuss allying with them.

    As for Mist, they did come to me, so I would say they get first ally dibses.

    I really shoulda added Charm's name too...forgetful Q.

    well tbh Q, I would not like Mist with sand..To much in the past and you and jose would fight..but if you say so!
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    Post by Angelic Harmony Fri May 23 2008, 21:23

    jake989 wrote:If we wait then one of the two will be very angry that we didn't help. So we should ally with one of the two, and take out the other then take out them, so we've taken both villages out in a very easy manner.

    If one of the two get angry, we could still side with one. Maybe the other village with back down. Because I have seen NO wars no sar. IF we ally we on, no battle will be held, I bet that much. But even if we dont, I STILL bet no wars will be brought.
    I say wait. because how do we know we can trust Mist or Shadow if we side with them. What if it's a trap?
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    Post by jake989 Fri May 23 2008, 21:24

    Well tell us your idea

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