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    Post by amaterasu

    Here is one scary thought for you

    the word MUSE when typed into dictionary.com says this

    1. to think or meditate in silence, as on some subject.
    2. Archaic. to gaze meditatively or wonderingly.

    with synonyms : cogitate, ruminate, think; dream. 1, 3. ponder, contemplate, deliberate.

    In the English language, when you add an A to the front of a word it means the opposite. This works the same as putting anti in front of something.

    so the word amuse when put into dictionary means this

    1. to hold the attention of (someone) pleasantly; entertain or divert in an enjoyable or cheerful manner: She amused the guests with witty conversation.
    2. to cause mirth, laughter, or the like, in: The comedian amused the audience with a steady stream of jokes.
    3. to cause (time, leisure, etc.) to pass agreeably.
    4. Archaic. to keep in expectation by flattery, pretenses, etc.
    5. Obsolete.
    a. to engross; absorb.
    b. to puzzle; distract.


    Under synonyms it says this

    1. please, charm, cheer. Amuse, divert, entertain mean to occupy the attention with something pleasant. That which amuses is usually playful or humorous and pleases the fancy. Divert implies turning the attention from serious thoughts or pursuits to something light, amusing, or lively. That which entertains usually does so because of a plan or program that engages and holds the attention by being pleasing and sometimes instructive.


    Amusement is actually pretty dangerous.

    How many of you people watch Tv, either for sports, tv shows or the news or anything like that?


    How many do it for their own amusement? Today we would call that entertainment, for some reason. But seriously, if your amused by tv, and other things even, how can you focus on the important things that will shape your future?
    not the news, because they are useless, in fact one day last week, CNN had in the news on their website of someone getting over 1,000,000 points on a guitar hero song.


    News? that is not news at all!


    How many of you have heard of the North American Free Trade Agreement?

    Designed to break down economical boundaries between the USA, Canada, and Mexico. The leader of the world at G20, were they not discussing a financial solution including maybe having our own currency like the European union

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110913

    What are we missing by amusing ourselves all the time?
    We are missing what the secret powers of this world are doing.

    2 Thessalonians 2:608 says this

    6 And you know what is holding him back, for he can be revealed only when his time comes. 7 For this lawlessness is already at work secretly, and it will remain secret until the one who is holding it back steps out of the way. 8 Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.


    The good thing though, is that Jesus wins, and it all ends good, but what about now? This lawlessness is working secretly, how will we discover it and defend ourselves from it when we are being amused/distracted by so many things?

    Psalms 2:2 says this

    2 The kings of the earth prepare for battle;
    the rulers plot together
    against the Lord
    and against his anointed one.


    There is something that I learned a while back, a saying, which is really powerful.

    The reason why people are easily lead astray is because everything (I say again EVERYTHING) has bits and pieces of the truth. Islam has some truth to it, so do Buddhism, and atheism and so on. however, the only thing which has it together is Christianity. The full truth is found in Jesus and in his Name and the Word of God.

    This means basically, when people conspire against something, its not on 100% lies and their own opinions, they have some basis for truth on which to stand, which is why a lot of people believe the NWO (New World Order for anyone out there) or that 666 is the mark of the beast
    Revelations 13:17-18
    (17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

    18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.)

    its the number of his name, that is what 666 is. The mark if something else.

    I don't believe everything or even most things that most people believe about the NWO, a lot of them say Satan is behind it, but go on to say religion is a farce, and there is no God. Makes no sense, but its what they say.

    I do believe that World leaders are plotting with each other, in some secret society, look at the Bohemian Grove, or the Skull and Bones club, or the Bilderberg group. Look at Obama's presidential team, is not most of the people working for him from Wall street? What about the Federal Reserved Act around the 30's or 40
    s where America gave its money over to the Federal Reserve banking Agency? The government of the United States doesn't even have control over its own money, it needs to be lent from the Federal Reserve on interest. Look it up yourselves.

    1 Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins. 2 You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world.[a] He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God. (Ephesians 2:1-3)
    and again in the same letter Paul writes

    For we[a] are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places. (Ephesians 6:12)

    Paul is saying we are fighting Demons, and EVIL RULERS.

    That means people like Hitler and Stalin if those types of rulers were around. But also unforeseen rulers.

    War has stopped working from conquering nations, we have the technology to blow each other up with bomb after bomb after bomb.
    Today, we fight on a different level. Through money. Not only through money, but through political sources as well.

    You don't need to jump into a country, and bust forth with guns a blazing to take it over. By giving out loans on interests or pressuring a country economically, you can make it so that country is in debt to your own, and if it can never repay that debt, it basically becomes your own little resource.



    You can believe anything here or not, but a warning, If America ever goes into Venezuela, It will not be for the same reason the Media says it will be for.

    And quite lucky for humanity, the best thing we can do to fight Satan, is to live for God and his Anointed One (Which is Jesus) and be basically bible believing Christians (would be called Fundamentalist Christians today). Because in the end, it is God who holds all the power, power greater than Satan, and his demons.And will reign forever (Daniel's prophecy of the statue of Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron, Clay+ Iron, also end of Revelations.)

    Also, just a note, Satan cannot be everywhere at once, he is not omnipresent. Meaning if you are being tempted, its most likely not Satan, but rather one of his demons. And really, would Satan waste his time with you if you were not a really big threat? Wouldn't he rather send one of his demons to take care of you?
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    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 19:14 by quater

    Yeah, amusement isn't evil, Ama.
    amaterasu

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 19:17 by amaterasu

    not always, I will admit that. But if you amuse yourself too much it will end badly for you (remember temperance in everything you do, access of anything is bad for you)
    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 19:26 by quater

    Also, you got a lot of the stuff about the Federal Reserve wrong, but I'm not gonna waste my time clearing that up since I don't think the Federal Reserve is the evil of evils, but how does the Canadian system of money work? I mean, what does it do? Does it lend money, does it just print, is it a gold standard? *Just asking cause I don't know and figured you might*
    amaterasu

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 19:30 by amaterasu

    I'm sure you do know how Canada's money system works. Just like America's money system, it used to be redeemable in Gold, but that was taken away from both countries. Both our bills are worthless pieces of green paper. We also have a federal reserve banking system which works similar to The Americans.
    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 20:08 by quater

    Actually, I had no idea how it works. Canadian monetary policies don't interest me much. But I figured since you know about mine I might as well ask about yours.

    Canadians seem to be taking everything I say in evil fashion lately.
    amaterasu

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 20:10 by amaterasu

    I just thought that the * at the end meant it was a hint to sarcasm
    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 20:16 by quater

    No...I put it in two spots. I was trying to tell you that I really didn't know.

    Any socialized country owes all its money to someone else. That is how they sustain themselves. Tis the way it is. Ebil it may be. But the way to fix that is to stand and fight!
    amaterasu

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 20:28 by amaterasu

    Oh, i only saw one.

    Stand and fight what?


    Also Apparently up here in Canada, we view Capitalism as a greedy way of living, where one fends for himself and extends no help to those below.

    At least in English Class. Also its funny, what the Christians were living in Jerusalem before Paul was converted, the way they were living resembled communism. I also heard something interesting in English Class. Communism has always failed because it needs a perfect person to be its head, but there is no perfect person. And then I though but since Christ is perfect, communism in its fundamental state would work because Christ would not be corrupt.

    By the way, I am not a communist, or at least I don't count myself as one
    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 20:45 by quater

    Stand and fight for what's right.

    Communism works when Jesus Christ runs it. So only when Jesus Christ runs it does Communism work. Which shows just how inept Communism is because it takes God to run it.

    I've heard that argument a trillion times. As Alexander Hamilton wrote:

    If Men were angels, they would need no governing. If men were governed by angels, they'd need no worries. Since men are neither angels or governed by angels, then we must check our government.

    I think that quote pretty much up why the Early Christian Model can't stand. And the best system besides having God run our system, is the Free Market Capitalism.

    By the way, Amaterasu, if capitalism is greed than throw out everything in your house that was made by a Capitalist and use only the things that were made by socialists. You will find you have very, very little. As your clothes, unless hand sewn or government made, are made by capitalists. Your appliances, all are made by capitalism. Your cars. Bikes, and mode of transportation besides the Bus and Train, are all made by capitalism. Your bed sheets, your household lights, your school supplies, your everything, pretty much, is made out of that greedy capitalism system. So you tell me. Does Capitalism leave people to fend for themselves? Or does Capitalism raise the level of comfort in one's life to levels thousands times better than people knew even 100 years ago? In fact, without capitalism people were left to fend for themselves. Capitalism created heating, Air conditioners, and refridgerators. It was capitalism that made TV, Radio, and computers. All these things you'd be without, if you didn't have capitalism.
    But capitalism sure is greedy, huh?
    amaterasu

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 20:50 by amaterasu

    Don't we judge angels?

    anyway

    I stand on this point of view.

    That no system of government is perfect.

    I don't care if Capitalism is greedy or not, we were just discussing that in English, but then again the teacher seems to say that being heterosexual isn't necessarily a good thing, which I find odd, its like promoting homosexuality without saying it.


    And she promotes feminist theory and Marxist theory it seems and she tends to make it so Capitalism and heterosexuality are bad things
    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 20:52 by quater

    Well, tell your teacher to survive without all the things I just told you to survive without, then, hm?

    No, we don't judge angels. I don't, at least.

    *Applauds* Yes, no system of government is perfect. But the best one you'll ever find, is capitalism free market.
    amaterasu

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 20:56 by amaterasu

    at the end, isn't it said that we will judge angels?

    but anyways

    I am sure my teacher could come up with some sort of argument

    if it ever comes up again, I will ask around for it.

    A lot of kingdoms prospered under Feudalism long ago

    but perhaps with our technology that wouldn't be as productive
    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 21:15 by quater

    I just thought it said Angels would work for us.

    In the middle ages, a family would name all of its children one name in hopes that just one child would grow up and bear that name for the family. The mortality rate was extremely high. People lived in huts. People were sick. And people lived in the most unsanitary conditions. Literally, mounds of human waste would sit on the sides of roads. These people had no appreciation for individualism in any respect. Art in all forms was suppressed. And the average person had 0 literacy.

    If that is your idea of prosperity, okiekadokie.
    amaterasu

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 21:39 by amaterasu

    hm, we should look this up further
    I think though pauls says somethign like you will judge angels someday, so why don't you judge evil or something like that?


    I wasn't talking about the Dark Ages, or the middle ages, but before then, like B.C. ear, and perhaps feudalism isn't the correct term, but most kingdoms had one king and stuff so I assumed that is what they were called,
    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 21:53 by quater

    The middle ages is Fuedalism, Ama.

    Don't take this the wrong way, I really mean no disrespect, but before you suggest we turn to a 500 year old discarded system, figure out the history of when it took place, okay? It just helps you sound sensible.

    Kingdoms = All the things I mentioned, too. Also, under a kingdom you wouldn't go to school.

    And, do remember, that until the breakthroughs in the American Health system, yes, American, stemming from greedy capitalism, the average person lived to be about 30-35. So, feudalism would require us to cut our lifespan in half. Good plan.
    amaterasu

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 22:02 by amaterasu

    I was talking about kingdoms like Babylon, Assyria, the Hittite empire, Israeli empire under David. Stuff mentioned in the bible, besides the fact that some of these were evil and wicked, they prospered pretty well. I know definitely that the middle ages was terrible and oppressive and stuff.


    Also it was really the middle ages where people's life spans dropped, before people were living pretty long under the Romans and Greeks and before their times. But the way the people lived from about 438 to about the end of the industrial revolution, was short lived and pretty bad.
    quater

    Post Tue Sep 29 2009, 23:15 by quater

    Those kingdoms all fell and those kingdoms had life pretty freaking crappy compared to your current one, too. Geez.

    That greece lifespan line isn't true, either. 45 years was the most an Ancient Greek would expect to live.

    And you can see the effects of this in the unindustrialized world. Those pockets that still exist where a person farms with no touch to the outside world. 40 years.

    Again, you have capitalism to thank for your longevity in life. And the fact you don't suffer unendurable tortures of the pangs of hunger and disease. Capitalism feeds over half the world's starving people and almost 100% of its own people. What communism, what socialism feeds other countries? It is Communism and socialism and remnants of kings and colonies that are having to be fed by American Christians. So tell me this. If these other systems were so great, why is it America, the evil and greedy empire that it is, that is feeding all these countless people? And them not feeding us, instead? It is because people in America have excess that they CAN give freely and with a caring heart. You say excess gives way to problems. But if that were the case, and what country has more excess than America, why does America feed half the world's starving? Why is America the most charitable nation in history? Excess can be a lead to problems, for that there is no doubt. Capitalism could lead to greed, that is for sure.

    But its still the best there is. If you really want to do more for the world, Ama. If you really want to do more to help the world's poor; if you want to help the world's starving get food. Then only one system has ever done it. That's capitalism. Not feudalism. Not socialism. Not communism. Those always, ALWAYS lead to food shortages and rationing. Maybe not quite fully food for socialism, but your healthcare is certainly being rationed.

    So the real question is, do you want to put your money where your mouth is. If you do, capitalism is what you should advocate. If not, go ahead keep talking about how Christians were communists and how Feudalism wasn't all bad.
    amaterasu

    Post Wed Sep 30 2009, 15:35 by amaterasu

    I'm pretty sure 70-85 range of life span is pretty young compared to the lives of say David's time or something.

    But that being said, it would make sense that any country without regard for system of government that does good in the sight of God will prosper and so on. But I guess in the Bible, Israel had leaders who were 60-70 when they died.

    I wouldn't say America is the most charitable nation in history. Unless we have records of charitableness for each country that has ever existed, and compared them, we can't say for sure that America is the charitable country. Plus it is the people whoa re charitable, not the country itself, I would say the most charitable people are Christians undoubtedly. Whether they live in America or not. Because America has people who just don't care as well as people who would die for someone in a zone of need.

    Also, I would think that comparing a doctors visit between Canada and the united States, we would pay less than you. Since we don't have to pay them directly, but their budget is from our taxes. If i said I lived in Alberta, it would be better, since they don't pay any taxes. I don't know how much it would be for a doctor's appointment or some medical operation, but here, we pay 13-15% taxes, with a portion of that going to doctors, so it would be less than that amount. And if Americans are paying thousands of dollars each time they go, its better to pay a steady amount through taxes. Which isn't really that bad. Plus every citizen is insured, or has access to health care or something like that.
    quater

    Post Wed Sep 30 2009, 15:44 by quater

    You're comparing apples to oranges.

    America is the most charitable nation in history, Amaterasu. Its a fact. I agree some people don't give, but who cares? No nation is perfect, but in the whole America does a lot more good than any other nation in history for mankind. Yes, in history. Its a fact.

    I'm not even going into the healthcare stuff, because it'll just continue the argument. Not that I can't, mind you. Its just this is getting old. ^_^;;

    Just face it, Capitalism isn't all bad. ^_^ If it were so bad, this wouldn't be a debate. You'd of crushed me. But you didn't. And besides, would I support something evil? Am I known for supporting the wrong systems? Naw~ So, I know what I'm talking about here. ^_^
    amaterasu

    Post Wed Sep 30 2009, 16:49 by amaterasu

    I don't see any evidence that America is the most charitable nations, but that aside, I never said I thought Capitalism was bad, I don't think its perfect, or way above any other system of government.

    I don't believe America has been a banner of hope and peace and love and so on for its entire history.

    But I find it odd. Why did you go after this and also say amusement isn't evil. Why not other aspects of what I put?
    quater

    Post Wed Sep 30 2009, 16:52 by quater

    I already told you we feed Half the world's hungry? How is that not evidence? Do you feed half the world's hungry? My word.

    I don't really care. If you can't listen to cold facts you're purposely ignoring the truth. I am pretty sure in the Bible that's called being blind.

    Originally all I wanted to know was how your Federal reserve board worked.
    amaterasu

    Post Wed Sep 30 2009, 17:02 by amaterasu

    Why doesn't anyone else reply anyways?

    geeh

    but besides that


    I don't care how you or anyone thinks that America is or has been, you cannot say without evidence that it was more charitable than any other country in history, how to do we know that every other country in the history of mankind has never been as charitable as America? Who would, and how would they keep track of it? They cannot, its not like a king in some country is like citizen X had 5 levels of charity this year, and citizen R had 13 levels. Its not being blind, its not being rash. Its not wanting to jump to conclusions. If America is, ti is, if it isn't it isn't. But we can't tell because we have no way of knowing if other countries that ceased to exist long before America was formed were more charitable or not, and we don't even have a way to count charitable levels.

    I guess the federal reserve stuff is pretty important, I thought you would go against the whole leaders plotting together or something, with all that that implies
    quater

    Post Wed Sep 30 2009, 17:05 by quater

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDkzYjQ0NTZiYmI1YjM0ZjAyZDhiZjlhZjdhOWYxMjM=

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/233106/america_the_most_charitable_nation.html?cat=37

    ^ Evidence.
    amaterasu

    Post Wed Sep 30 2009, 17:42 by amaterasu

    I have read those (and still am in the process) as well i talked to my dad, who is pretty wise in many areas.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_charitable_countries puts America 1st in two categories and 23rd in a third
    he said that valued money wise and resource wise, America is probably the most charitable, but then he asked, how do you define charitable?

    is it most money given? Helping people? in what? for what reasons?

    those articles suggested that it was those Americans who were more "charitable" but better yet hinted towards Christians in America. I won't say America isn't "charitable" but I still can't say it is the most charitable, because how can you define charitably? Is it just money or goods? is it acts of kindness? Is it more than that? if so, how mind boggling it would be to try and compare. And there isn't a way to compare.

    I think we are looking at this wrongly, it isn't which nation is the most charitable, but rather what group of people have done the most charitable things because of love, and that is Christians.

    I wonder sometimes, Do Americans put their Country before God? or put God before their country?

    I have never heard an American say America was bad, or is bad, or has always been bad. its always this case. America is the best nation on earth, its the Greatest nation ever, its a place of hope and peace; and so on. I hardly ever hear people put God before America, when it comes to Americans, they never say America is a sinful place, and its only by God has it been around so long and been able to do what it has done. Can an American deny his country for God? Can an American say America is sinful and fallen, just like every other country, and only God is good? Or is your pride too high? Not just an individual person, but the nation as a whole, and the Christians, can you through away your pride and humbly say America is not the greatest freedom or greatest wahtever in the world, it is God who is?

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