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    Post by amaterasu Fri Sep 05 2008, 17:49

    Okay, I got this Idea from searching through all the old pages of good old chats in the Creation or Evolution and are you a Christian threads and thought that some argument in there didn't suit that topic, so I was thinking why not have a general thread to debate this kinda of questions?

    So if you have questions or want to posts your ideas here go ahead, but i'm sure heated debates will start so try not to attack the person directly only their Ideas #1

    Edit: I decided maybe to just have a debate thread for general as well, that way we can debate with others not as crazy as ourselves!
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    Post by amaterasu Sat Sep 06 2008, 16:54

    I think first off that freedom of speech should be well free and to ones opinion. But going to far and having it like our worlds freedom of speech (I.e. girl says boys are stupid and gets away free while a boy say girls are stupid gets hammered by everyone around him)
    is ruining a lot of things
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Sat Sep 06 2008, 16:56

    I think freedom of speech is a bit of a hoax.
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    Post by amaterasu Sat Sep 06 2008, 17:01

    that's a good word to describe it lol
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Sat Sep 06 2008, 17:06

    XD Well it is! Honestly, if we had freedom of speech, we would be allowed to voice our opinions.
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Sat Sep 06 2008, 17:13

    we are allowed to voice our opinions in a non violent manner... however in school's and such they have there own set of rules which says you still have that freedom but has to be used in a respectful manor ... (you cant have the swastika symbol on your jacket. Its a freedom of speech however its offensive to others.)
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Sat Sep 06 2008, 17:15

    Oh, that's true too. We're allowed to voice our opinions, but we're not free to voice them to someone of authority really.
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Sat Sep 06 2008, 17:17

    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:Oh, that's true too. We're allowed to voice our opinions, but we're not free to voice them to someone of authority really.

    well you can but someone with authority would probably have the power to punish you .. lol so you can still voice your opinion but there will be consequences.... XD
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Sat Sep 06 2008, 17:18

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:Oh, that's true too. We're allowed to voice our opinions, but we're not free to voice them to someone of authority really.

    well you can but someone with authority would probably have the power to punish you .. lol so you can still voice your opinion but there will be consequences.... XD
    XD So we really have partial freedom of speech. We can say it, but we'll be persecuted for it XD
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Sat Sep 06 2008, 17:22

    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:
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    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:Oh, that's true too. We're allowed to voice our opinions, but we're not free to voice them to someone of authority really.

    well you can but someone with authority would probably have the power to punish you .. lol so you can still voice your opinion but there will be consequences.... XD
    XD So we really have partial freedom of speech. We can say it, but we'll be persecuted for it XD

    yes that is how it goes Bwahaha lol ...*sigh*
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Sat Sep 06 2008, 17:23

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    PeinQAkatsuki wrote:Oh, that's true too. We're allowed to voice our opinions, but we're not free to voice them to someone of authority really.

    well you can but someone with authority would probably have the power to punish you .. lol so you can still voice your opinion but there will be consequences.... XD
    XD So we really have partial freedom of speech. We can say it, but we'll be persecuted for it XD

    yes that is how it goes Bwahaha lol ...*sigh*
    XD So there's half freedom of speech. XD
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    Post by Aichu Sat Sep 06 2008, 22:41

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:we are allowed to voice our opinions in a non violent manner... however in school's and such they have there own set of rules which says you still have that freedom but has to be used in a respectful manor ... (you cant have the swastika symbol on your jacket. Its a freedom of speech however its offensive to others.)

    I'm not even allowed to talk about my religion in school :P And you can get arrested for saying homosexuality is wrong from the pulpit of a church.
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    Post by quater Sat Sep 06 2008, 22:53

    Aichu wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:we are allowed to voice our opinions in a non violent manner... however in school's and such they have there own set of rules which says you still have that freedom but has to be used in a respectful manor ... (you cant have the swastika symbol on your jacket. Its a freedom of speech however its offensive to others.)

    I'm not even allowed to talk about my religion in school :P And you can get arrested for saying homosexuality is wrong from the pulpit of a church.

    Mhm. Freedom of Speech is dying.
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    Post by teikiatsu Thu Sep 11 2008, 06:07

    theres no such thing as perfecting
    so theres no such thing as perfect freedome of speech de gozaru

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    Post by Angelic Harmony Thu Sep 11 2008, 07:54

    We dont have freedom of speech in certain points of time and places. And they should specify that and not twist it around. I think the government does this on purpose when someone says to a cop "Your a loaded peice of shit." you will probably get arrested (Happened to my aunt) and what can you do? I find it retarded. We have mouths to talk, not to keep shut. If we have the 'debate club' at school and such, why hold us in on wht we have to say?

    Freedom of speech should mean "You have a right to voice your opinion where ever, when ever." Not "when your only in someone at your level of importance." But they THEY can talk down to us? Hell with that.
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    Post by teikiatsu Thu Sep 11 2008, 08:06

    i wonder if u can sue a cop for arresting u for swearing at him de gozaru
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    Post by Angelic Harmony Thu Sep 11 2008, 08:18

    That'd be awesome! XD
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    Post by teikiatsu Thu Sep 11 2008, 09:02

    but its illeagle to swear at a cop
    and wouldnt people have already debated
    that its a breach of freedome of speach de gozarune
    ... unless u claim to be a protester after swearing de gozaru
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    Post by Banouin Thu Sep 11 2008, 09:06

    Angelic Harmony wrote:We dont have freedom of speech in certain points of time and places. And they should specify that and not twist it around. I think the government does this on purpose when someone says to a cop "Your a loaded peice of shit." you will probably get arrested (Happened to my aunt) and what can you do? I find it retarded. We have mouths to talk, not to keep shut. If we have the 'debate club' at school and such, why hold us in on wht we have to say?

    Freedom of speech should mean "You have a right to voice your opinion where ever, when ever." Not "when your only in someone at your level of importance." But they THEY can talk down to us? Hell with that.

    :D I told a cop "You fucking suck, do your job" Once, ...That was fun. *Cough*
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    Post by neon kun Thu Sep 11 2008, 09:17

    nice.
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    Post by teikiatsu Thu Sep 11 2008, 10:38

    id love to do such a childish prank
    such as sticking a "kick me" sign on the back of a police one day de gozaru

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    Post by BlackTears Thu Sep 11 2008, 10:40

    a kick me sign?

    heck, i dont follow cops rules. i follow parents rules.

    i dont believe in freedom of speech.
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    Post by teikiatsu Thu Sep 11 2008, 11:14

    i think u can control people with morals better than u can the law de gozaru
    ... but there are some people with out shame or pride
    that u need money for de gozaru
    ... EVERY MAN HAS HIS BARGAINING POINT!
    people that are controlled by law share the bargaining points:
    immage, money, health and so forth de gozaru
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    Post by neon kun Thu Sep 11 2008, 11:17

    i believe in freedom of speech but it is dying, as Q said.
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Thu Sep 11 2008, 18:46

    I don't know what's behind that whole freedom of speech thing. Honestly, we should be able to swear at a cop (one time I did, though I don't think he heard me XD), and have that not be illegal. Because, I mean, come on if you were picked up by a cop and got arrested, it would be an oppertune moment to say "Oh sh-t no way! You've got to be f-cking kidding!"

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