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    Post by Yoyo Thu Apr 02 2009, 21:00

    TheFirstKnight wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:I would think Obama may be using some of Hitler's tactics, I don't trust him really

    good thing were in Canada then eh

    not really, we aren't better or anything

    I'm just saying that Obama can't really do much to Canada

    Obama could decide Canada is a threat to our economy and thus invade. There would be Obama stickers on everyone's notebooks and his face would be plastered all over the windows and he would outlaw Canadian bacon! D:

    Or Obama could demand that Canadian bacon be labeled ham not bacon!

    That would be cruel! How dare he label Canadian bacon as ham? What will he do next, change the name of all the toilets in the land? D:
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    Post by amaterasu Thu Apr 02 2009, 21:00

    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:I would think Obama may be using some of Hitler's tactics, I don't trust him really

    good thing were in Canada then eh

    not really, we aren't better or anything

    I'm just saying that Obama can't really do much to Canada

    Well he could have a big influence on our politics from now one, especially if he speaks out against us

    true, but he can't change how our we run our country unless he is somehow the presedent of north america

    well

    nah, but besides, we legalize homosexaul marriage, we can't be that good
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    Post by amaterasu Thu Apr 02 2009, 21:01

    Yoyo wrote:
    TheFirstKnight wrote:
    Yoyo wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:I would think Obama may be using some of Hitler's tactics, I don't trust him really

    good thing were in Canada then eh

    not really, we aren't better or anything

    I'm just saying that Obama can't really do much to Canada

    Obama could decide Canada is a threat to our economy and thus invade. There would be Obama stickers on everyone's notebooks and his face would be plastered all over the windows and he would outlaw Canadian bacon! D:

    Or Obama could demand that Canadian bacon be labeled ham not bacon!

    That would be cruel! How dare he label Canadian bacon as ham? What will he do next, change the name of all the toilets in the land? D:

    nice rhyming
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    Post by Yoyo Thu Apr 02 2009, 21:04

    amaterasu wrote:
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    TheFirstKnight wrote:
    Yoyo wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:I would think Obama may be using some of Hitler's tactics, I don't trust him really

    good thing were in Canada then eh

    not really, we aren't better or anything

    I'm just saying that Obama can't really do much to Canada

    Obama could decide Canada is a threat to our economy and thus invade. There would be Obama stickers on everyone's notebooks and his face would be plastered all over the windows and he would outlaw Canadian bacon! D:

    Or Obama could demand that Canadian bacon be labeled ham not bacon!

    That would be cruel! How dare he label Canadian bacon as ham? What will he do next, change the name of all the toilets in the land? D:

    nice rhyming

    Woah, that did rhyme. Awesome. ^_^
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    Post by quater Thu Apr 02 2009, 21:05

    darkflame wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:I would think Obama may be using some of Hitler's tactics, I don't trust him really

    good thing were in Canada then eh

    not really, we aren't better or anything

    I'm just saying that Obama can't really do much to Canada
    Canada is far more socialized then the current state of America.
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    Post by amaterasu Thu Apr 02 2009, 21:05

    Yoyo wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
    Yoyo wrote:
    TheFirstKnight wrote:
    Yoyo wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:I would think Obama may be using some of Hitler's tactics, I don't trust him really

    good thing were in Canada then eh

    not really, we aren't better or anything

    I'm just saying that Obama can't really do much to Canada

    Obama could decide Canada is a threat to our economy and thus invade. There would be Obama stickers on everyone's notebooks and his face would be plastered all over the windows and he would outlaw Canadian bacon! D:

    Or Obama could demand that Canadian bacon be labeled ham not bacon!

    That would be cruel! How dare he label Canadian bacon as ham? What will he do next, change the name of all the toilets in the land? D:

    nice rhyming

    Woah, that did rhyme. Awesome. ^_^

    :2thumbs:
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    Post by amaterasu Thu Apr 02 2009, 21:06

    quater wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:I would think Obama may be using some of Hitler's tactics, I don't trust him really

    good thing were in Canada then eh

    not really, we aren't better or anything

    I'm just saying that Obama can't really do much to Canada
    Canada is far more socialized then the current state of America.

    You knwo about Canada than me most likely
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    Post by quater Thu Apr 02 2009, 21:08

    amaterasu wrote:
    quater wrote:
    darkflame wrote:
    amaterasu wrote:
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    amaterasu wrote:I would think Obama may be using some of Hitler's tactics, I don't trust him really

    good thing were in Canada then eh

    not really, we aren't better or anything

    I'm just saying that Obama can't really do much to Canada
    Canada is far more socialized then the current state of America.

    You knwo about Canada than me most likely

    Actually, most likely not.

    I just know you guys have socialized medicine and how it can fail a lot. I also know you're a lot more religiously and ethnically diverse than you'd expect.
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    Post by PeinQAkatsuki Fri Apr 03 2009, 03:08

    That's a little much to be asking of middle/high schoolers. I mean, holy crap we can't even get off our lazy butts to do our homework anymore. The point is mute to make people do all that stuff.

    And retired people are RETIRED. Lemme repeat that: RETIRED. They shouldn't have to do anymore for the country unless it's on their own volition.

    Not one of the brightest ideas in the world. Community service is VOLUNTEER work, unless of course the court tells you do do it.

    COMMUNITY SERVICE IS VOLUNTARY if you will.
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    Post by Sado Fri Apr 03 2009, 12:30

    Some Internet postings claim the bill says the government must come up with plans for a
    “mandatory service requirement for all able young people,” but that
    phrase is nowhere to be found in either the House-passed bill or the
    Senate version.

    The bill as introduced in the House,
    however, did call for examining whether this would be a good idea. It
    called for a congressional commission to "address and analyze" several
    topics, including "issues that deter volunteerism" and how they can be
    overcome, how expanding international public service might affect
    diplomacy and foreign relations, and "[w]hether a workable, fair, and
    reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people
    could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in
    a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation." The
    commission would also investigate "[t]he need for a public service
    academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded
    undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector
    leaders."

    All of that language is now gone. To be clear,
    the original bill didn't call for a mandatory public service program,
    but called for the exploration of whether one could be established. But the entire section on creating a "Congressional Commission on Civic Service" was stripped from the bill.


    And for those who hate walls of text I'll summarize, there is no phrase requiring the development of a plan for mandatory community service anywhere. The closest it came was the original bill presented to the house suggested creating a commitee to explore the ramifications of a mandatory community service, and even that has now been removed.



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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Fri Apr 03 2009, 16:41

    death-chan wrote:Community service isn't that bad, if it's like, ten hours required. That's easy.
    Students should focus on getting good grades, not this crap.
    I'd rather do community service then school work xD


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    Post by Titaniumxvx Fri Apr 03 2009, 16:42

    Community Service.

    I see dead people.
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    Post by quater Fri Apr 03 2009, 16:48

    Sado wrote:Some Internet postings claim the bill says the government must come up with plans for a
    “mandatory service requirement for all able young people,” but that
    phrase is nowhere to be found in either the House-passed bill or the
    Senate version.

    The bill as introduced in the House,
    however, did call for examining whether this would be a good idea. It
    called for a congressional commission to "address and analyze" several
    topics, including "issues that deter volunteerism" and how they can be
    overcome, how expanding international public service might affect
    diplomacy and foreign relations, and "[w]hether a workable, fair, and
    reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people
    could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in
    a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation." The
    commission would also investigate "[t]he need for a public service
    academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded
    undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector
    leaders."

    All of that language is now gone. To be clear,
    the original bill didn't call for a mandatory public service program,
    but called for the exploration of whether one could be established. But the entire section on creating a "Congressional Commission on Civic Service" was stripped from the bill.


    And for those who hate walls of text I'll summarize, there is no phrase requiring the development of a plan for mandatory community service anywhere. The closest it came was the original bill presented to the house suggested creating a commitee to explore the ramifications of a mandatory community service, and even that has now been removed.




    I have a question.

    What's the difference in exploring the ability to create one, and creating one?

    In either case, you are stating that you wish to make it required.

    That's like saying: I want to explore the ability to create a 300 story building. Now, I have no intention of building it. Just exploring the possibility.

    Except even less than that. Closer would be saying: I would like to explore the idea of making A's no longer allowed. Won't do it, but I will explore the idea and set up commissions for this idea.


    And you say, but it's just exploring.

    With the intent. The intent is to eventually exercise these explorations, obviously.

    I am most certainly glad the commission won't be set up. But people out there are trying to set it up, is the scary part.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Sat Apr 04 2009, 04:51

    We didn't have mandatory community service in school...
    I had to do 60 hours of community service once, and it sucked balls - it took time away from my job and time away from my sleep (I worked 2nd and 3rd shift).

    And like a couple people said - community service is about volunteering (unless you're in jail). Forcing someone to do it, makes it something different all together. Ladies and gentlemen - it makes you tools of the man!! Welcome to the working world. (but you don't get paid for it until you get real jobs, you lazy bums)
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    Post by TheFirstKnight Sat Apr 04 2009, 14:55

    In some parts of Canada, they are required to do community service. We can look at Canada as a place where ideas are tested. Since Canada is the way it is, this can't be a good idea. Just mentioning the word Canada invites all sorts of troubles like pancing and getting quarters thrown at you, mostly done by me but anyone can join in on the fun.
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    Post by SickSelfishSyQo Sun Apr 05 2009, 02:19

    Sounds like a good time.

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