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    Is Obama a weeny?

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    Post by quater Thu Jun 12 2008, 23:20

    Shinobi's Redemption wrote:i need more practice on dabiting i was almost squashed today T__T

    I got your back! Stay on the good guys side.

    But, in your defense this site nearly never debates
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    Post by TheFirstKnight Fri Jun 13 2008, 01:26

    haha i knew something like this would happen.
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    Post by Dancing Mist Fri Jun 13 2008, 11:13

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    Dancing Mist wrote:My dad said that someone will propably kill Obama if he wins and a whole race problem will brake out.

    Don't take this the wrong way.

    But your dad does not know what he is talking about
    So you think Obama should win

    How can I put this nicely.

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    Hehehe.
    Who do you want to win?

    Well originally it was

    Fred Thompson Fred Thompson!

    But now it's McCaine
    I see.

    I am sure you support Obama?
    Frankly I don't care.
    Okay I care alittle bit.
    I'm trusting God will pick the right one and everything will work out.

    Eh the way I see it

    Paul says "I fought the good fight" And so will I.
    God has alwayed pick the rulers you see that in Samuel and Kings....acctually you see it through the whole bible.

    He picked the rulers of Israel...

    But he never picked the Rulers of the United States of America. Do you think God really wanted Saddam Hussein or Adolf to be leaders? Was it a part of his plans? Yeah. But it's up to the good people of the world to stand up too
    I remember in Genisus(sp..i think...i'm to tired) that he let that evil Egypt king rule....look that up and see what it says. PM me about.

    Goodnight see ya tomorrow.

    I am not sure what you are arguing. But I have never known God to want us to stand idly by.

    I don’t really worry about it. I do feel God is in control of everything in life. I know that as a Christian I should care and I should take time to know who the candidates are and pick the ones who are the most godly and who support Christian values. However, I will not be undone or upset when the candidate that I think is most godly does not win. Because God is in control of every thing. If when I am old enough I don’t vote, then I feel God knows that and is very capable of placing the right number of people voting for the right person that he wants in office. My mom did not like Clinton as President but she says that if Clinton had not been President then some things that have to take place for a one world money system would not be in place today and that occurred under Clinton. That is needed for the end times. God placed Good and bad leaders over everything from Israel to the USA so that he will be glorified, so that we will be conformance to his image, and that we will desire a relationship with him.
    I think that God does let good and bad things happen to us because it is a test of faith and it is to make us stronger and better Christians (like Peter he denied Christ but that made him more on fire for Christ because he went through the humbling experience of denying him.)
    Romans 8:28 says “And we know that in all thing God works for good of those who love him who have been called according to his purpose. 29For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

    God might let a bad president come the office cause the end of time is coming close.

    Beside I can't vote I'm not worrying about.....but I do have to take goverment next year....fun....
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 11:42

    Sigh... How did the thread turn into this?

    Obama is not a weeny

    You know, this is probably the reason I never liked politics much, I dislike most of the candidates and I'm tired of debating which one is better with other misinformed kids while the adults don't listen and vote regardless of your opinions or don't even vote at all

    And Q, a black supremacist? THat's a bit extreme, but you always tend to exxagerate things when you are in an argument, HAMAS withdrew their support from Obamma and you know it, but I guess you decided to leave out that information

    I was never good at debating, but try me and see what happens
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:26

    knssquad wrote:Sigh... How did the thread turn into this?

    Obama is not a weeny

    You know, this is probably the reason I never liked politics much, I dislike most of the candidates and I'm tired of debating which one is better with other misinformed kids while the adults don't listen and vote regardless of your opinions or don't even vote at all

    And Q, a black supremacist? THat's a bit extreme, but you always tend to exxagerate things when you are in an argument, HAMAS withdrew their support from Obamma and you know it, but I guess you decided to leave out that information

    I was never good at debating, but try me and see what happens

    Go ahead and show me where Hamas withdrew it's support. I do know they took down their link. Because it was given away no? But I don't recall Hamas ever publicly saying "We no longer support Obama" and to be honest does it matter if they did? Any Terrorist cell that is enemies with the United States that supports a Presidential Candidate should be carefully taken a look at no? You act like I knew that but am trying to swing a conspiracy, I have never heard of a full block by Hamas.

    And I suppose staying in a Church that Gave lewis Fuiracon an honorary award and Obama showed up 3 times in their newspaper on the same page as him, once even shaking his hand and smiling, for twenty years, isn't enough for me to convict him as one. Nor is the million man march, the fact that his pastor said "White man created AIDS", or the continous other streams of black supremist connections, nor the fact Michelle believes America to be a "Mean" country in 2008. You're right, I am exxagerating when I said that wasn't I?

    You're right, I am just trying to win an argument with a bunch of misinformed kids. Yawn
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:28

    TheFirstKnight wrote:haha i knew something like this would happen.

    You act like something big happened? I coulda told you it would have happened too.
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    Post by Meika-Chan Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:42

    Why didn't I get all this info when I was trying to squish everyone? >_>;

    But it seems to me like he's just giving words. he has prety much no experience, and he's just planning... I think.
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:45

    quater wrote:
    knssquad wrote:Sigh... How did the thread turn into this?

    Obama is not a weeny

    You know, this is probably the reason I never liked politics much, I dislike most of the candidates and I'm tired of debating which one is better with other misinformed kids while the adults don't listen and vote regardless of your opinions or don't even vote at all

    And Q, a black supremacist? THat's a bit extreme, but you always tend to exxagerate things when you are in an argument, HAMAS withdrew their support from Obamma and you know it, but I guess you decided to leave out that information

    I was never good at debating, but try me and see what happens

    Go ahead and show me where Hamas withdrew it's support. I do know they took down their link. Because it was given away no? But I don't recall Hamas ever publicly saying "We no longer support Obama" and to be honest does it matter if they did? Any Terrorist cell that is enemies with the United States that supports a Presidential Candidate should be carefully taken a look at no? You act like I knew that but am trying to swing a conspiracy, I have never heard of a full block by Hamas.

    And I suppose staying in a Church that Gave lewis Fuiracon an honorary award and Obama showed up 3 times in their newspaper on the same page as him, once even shaking his hand and smiling, for twenty years, isn't enough for me to convict him as one. Nor is the million man march, the fact that his pastor said "White man created AIDS", or the continous other streams of black supremist connections, nor the fact Michelle believes America to be a "Mean" country in 2008. You're right, I am exxagerating when I said that wasn't I?

    You're right, I am just trying to win an argument with a bunch of misinformed kids. Yawn

    so now you are trying to say that Obama thinks the same way his pastor and his wife think?

    So what if his wife said that America is mean? America isn't exactly a saint

    here you go

    http://current.com/items/89003517_hamas_spokesperson_withdraws_support_for_senator_obama_admits_both_candidates_are_interchangable

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Hamas_blasts_Obama.html

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61631

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/06/hamas-unendorses-obama/

    http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/06/04/hamas-unendorses-obama-after-speech-to-pro-israel-lobby/

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=960402&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020696.php

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020696.php

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/04/good-news-hamas-unendorses-obama/

    Obama even went so far as to criticize President Carter's image when he met with Hamas


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3532797,00.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1636948020080416

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-philadelphia17apr17,1,1535291.story
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    Post by Titaniumxvx Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:47

    knssquad wrote:
    quater wrote:
    knssquad wrote:Sigh... How did the thread turn into this?

    Obama is not a weeny

    You know, this is probably the reason I never liked politics much, I dislike most of the candidates and I'm tired of debating which one is better with other misinformed kids while the adults don't listen and vote regardless of your opinions or don't even vote at all

    And Q, a black supremacist? THat's a bit extreme, but you always tend to exxagerate things when you are in an argument, HAMAS withdrew their support from Obamma and you know it, but I guess you decided to leave out that information

    I was never good at debating, but try me and see what happens

    Go ahead and show me where Hamas withdrew it's support. I do know they took down their link. Because it was given away no? But I don't recall Hamas ever publicly saying "We no longer support Obama" and to be honest does it matter if they did? Any Terrorist cell that is enemies with the United States that supports a Presidential Candidate should be carefully taken a look at no? You act like I knew that but am trying to swing a conspiracy, I have never heard of a full block by Hamas.

    And I suppose staying in a Church that Gave lewis Fuiracon an honorary award and Obama showed up 3 times in their newspaper on the same page as him, once even shaking his hand and smiling, for twenty years, isn't enough for me to convict him as one. Nor is the million man march, the fact that his pastor said "White man created AIDS", or the continous other streams of black supremist connections, nor the fact Michelle believes America to be a "Mean" country in 2008. You're right, I am exxagerating when I said that wasn't I?

    You're right, I am just trying to win an argument with a bunch of misinformed kids. Yawn

    so now you are trying to say that Obama thinks the same way his pastor and his wife think?

    So what if his wife said that America is mean? America isn't exactly a saint

    here you go

    http://current.com/items/89003517_hamas_spokesperson_withdraws_support_for_senator_obama_admits_both_candidates_are_interchangable

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Hamas_blasts_Obama.html

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61631

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/06/hamas-unendorses-obama/

    http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/06/04/hamas-unendorses-obama-after-speech-to-pro-israel-lobby/

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=960402&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020696.php

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020696.php

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/04/good-news-hamas-unendorses-obama/

    Obama even went so far as to criticize President Carter's image when he met with Hamas


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3532797,00.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1636948020080416

    [url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-philadelphia17apr17,1,1535291.story
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-philadelphia17apr17,1,1535291.story[/quote[/url]]

    Holy Smokes, Knss
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:53

    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    knssquad wrote:
    quater wrote:
    knssquad wrote:Sigh... How did the thread turn into this?

    Obama is not a weeny

    You know, this is probably the reason I never liked politics much, I dislike most of the candidates and I'm tired of debating which one is better with other misinformed kids while the adults don't listen and vote regardless of your opinions or don't even vote at all

    And Q, a black supremacist? THat's a bit extreme, but you always tend to exxagerate things when you are in an argument, HAMAS withdrew their support from Obamma and you know it, but I guess you decided to leave out that information

    I was never good at debating, but try me and see what happens

    Go ahead and show me where Hamas withdrew it's support. I do know they took down their link. Because it was given away no? But I don't recall Hamas ever publicly saying "We no longer support Obama" and to be honest does it matter if they did? Any Terrorist cell that is enemies with the United States that supports a Presidential Candidate should be carefully taken a look at no? You act like I knew that but am trying to swing a conspiracy, I have never heard of a full block by Hamas.

    And I suppose staying in a Church that Gave lewis Fuiracon an honorary award and Obama showed up 3 times in their newspaper on the same page as him, once even shaking his hand and smiling, for twenty years, isn't enough for me to convict him as one. Nor is the million man march, the fact that his pastor said "White man created AIDS", or the continous other streams of black supremist connections, nor the fact Michelle believes America to be a "Mean" country in 2008. You're right, I am exxagerating when I said that wasn't I?

    You're right, I am just trying to win an argument with a bunch of misinformed kids. Yawn

    so now you are trying to say that Obama thinks the same way his pastor and his wife think?

    So what if his wife said that America is mean? America isn't exactly a saint

    here you go

    http://current.com/items/89003517_hamas_spokesperson_withdraws_support_for_senator_obama_admits_both_candidates_are_interchangable

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Hamas_blasts_Obama.html

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61631

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/06/06/hamas-unendorses-obama/

    http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/06/04/hamas-unendorses-obama-after-speech-to-pro-israel-lobby/

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=960402&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020696.php

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020696.php

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/04/good-news-hamas-unendorses-obama/

    Obama even went so far as to criticize President Carter's image when he met with Hamas


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3532797,00.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1636948020080416

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-philadelphia17apr17,1,1535291.story

    Holy Smokes, Knss

    That's out of millions of articles, blogs, the such

    That's not all

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIHKKVm67wk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoW3kLqmRyM
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    Post by Meika-Chan Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:54

    Woah, good job Dazed
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:57

    I read every article and blog and watched every video

    All I'm saying is that I support nobody, but I don't think he is a black supremacist, a terrorist, or a weeny for taht matter

    XD Weeny is a funny word
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    Post by Meika-Chan Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:58

    XD

    HOT DOG!
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 12:58

    Good. President Carter Deserved to get fullbody slammed don't ya think? It was an idiotic move. How dare he.

    You can't deny the fact the Hamas has given money to Obama now can you? Or you can't deny that for a long time Hamas did support him will you? And I must ask, isn't this good news? Why would we want a Hamas supported presidential candidate. I didn't know Hamas had their own spokesperson. But now maybe you should look at the Political side? When word got out that Obama was supported by Hamas, Hamas supporters quickly bashed him so people like you could say he wasn't supported by Hamas, no? Do you think after the money they gave and after they had Hamas websites on the Obama home page site that they suddenly had a change of heart? Or maybe they did it for Political gains, no? To make him look tougher? Maybe it's an act?

    Sure, Michelle Obama is a very very rich lady who has a very luxurious lifestyle and she calls America mean? She is living in some of the nicest gains the world offers, and she thinks America is mean? She isn't proud of her country? And America pays for half of the worlds out reach and povery helping donating charities, if that isn't some niceness, what is nice Quad?

    Haha. Um, hm. Well let's see. You marry a woman who thinks America is mean, and you go to a Church for 20 years listening to people who Hate America? Do I think he has the same views as these people? Wouldn't I be an idiot not too?

    Think about it this way. If he were a white guy, and he spent 2 years in a white supremist church, wouldn't you call him a white supremist? Well if he is a black guy, and spends 20 years in a black supremist church, married to a wife who thinks America is mean, he calls people "Clinging to their guns and antipathy towards others" and when asked he said "Doesn't everyone know that's true", yes, yes I do think he believes the same way as his wife and pastor.

    Do you realize how major those relationships are? Those are two of the biggest relationships you pick, the woman you spend the rest of your life with, and the man who is supposed to get you closer to God. If these people think one way, you should too. Or pick a new pastor for goodness sake no?

    And I must ask, do you actually think I am dumb to think he does?
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 13:15

    You would truly be surprised how people can be turn out

    who says he didn't disagree with his pastor? He infact denounced his pastor several times who just seems to want to feed off of Obama's publicity to sound his irrational views

    and don't act like America is some angel, quite a few selfish people live here, like in any other part of the world

    Wouldn't you think that when you donate to a charity, that all your money goes to the people they donate too?

    You're wrong

    40% of that amount of money is not donated at all, you would think this is just to let the charity scrape by. But many times, the leader of a charity has their own personal jets

    Have you ever heard of the author Kevin Trudeau? His books are quite interesting when it comes to political outlooks

    Meanwhile, America is bullied by giant companies that lobby, bascially corrupting the government.

    And this has existed for centuries, you can't act like Obama is the only one with quirks. The government is corrupt, Democrats and Republicans
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 13:15

    By the way Quad, did you even read some of your own links?

    According to World Net Daily, one of the links you posted:

    On the eve of a planned meeting with former President Jimmy Carter, the isolated Hamas terrorist organization has expressed "hope" Sen. Barack Obama will win the presidential elections and "change" America's foreign policy.
    "We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections," Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas' top political adviser in the Gaza Strip, said in an exclusive interview with WND and with the John Batchelor Show on WABC Radio in New York.

    That doesn't sound like Hamas closing support to me.

    And Jihadwatch.com said

    “We don’t mind–actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance,” Yousef said in response to a question about the group’s willingness to meet with either of the Democratic presidential candidates.


    Mhm. And look why Hamas is not endorsing Obama. Because he made a pro Israel Speech. Up until that point they were supporting him. Meaning they were supporting: His National Defense policies, his foreign Diplomacy policies, and his military policies.

    If only he hated Israel too Hamas is thinking, then he'd be perfect.
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 13:20

    knssquad wrote:You would truly be surprised how people can be turn out

    who says he didn't disagree with his pastor? He infact denounced his pastor several times who just seems to want to feed off of Obama's publicity to sound his irrational views

    and don't act like America is some angel, quite a few selfish people live here, like in any other part of the world

    Wouldn't you think that when you donate to a charity, that all your money goes to the people they donate too?

    You're wrong

    40% of that amount of money is not donated at all, you would think this is just to let the charity scrape by. But many times, the leader of a charity has their own personal jets

    Have you ever heard of the author Kevin Trudeau? His books are quite interesting when it comes to political outlooks

    Meanwhile, America is bullied by giant companies that lobby, bascially corrupting the government.

    And this has existed for centuries, you can't act like Obama is the only one with quirks. The government is corrupt, Democrats and Republicans

    The first line is irrelavent woo!

    You do realize he took a month to finally denounce Obama right? After he made the SAME comments he had made for 20 years again. Not to mention his all to famous "I could no sooner denounce Uncle Wright then I could denounce the black Community" and a few weeks later "I denounce Pastor Wright! That is not the man I knew". Oh really?

    *Yawn*

    The whole charity thing is useless I agree. But you didn't prove me wrong. America does feed half the world's hungry, like I said, through charities. So what if a lot of Charities are screwed up. The point is we still give tons and feed half the world's poor. Did I say America is an angel? No. Do I think it's downright mean? No. And I am not even very rich am I? Well lookie there.

    Moving on, well duh. Charities are screwed up, Harriet Reid doesn't even pay taxes because he gives so much money to Charity, one of his own charities!

    Haha. You are such a hippy. You think Giant Companies run America? Then answer me this. Why doesn't Exxon have drilling rights in America? Their is oil here, and Exxon is asking to drill here. If the government is OH SO corrupt, why haven't they been giving the drilling rights? Yet instead, they have been taken to court, multiple times for playing unfairly. That doesn't sound like Giant Companies controlling everything to me. Why would giant companies take themselves to court?
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 13:30

    quater wrote:By the way Quad, did you even read some of your own links?

    According to World Net Daily, one of the links you posted:

    On the eve of a planned meeting with former President Jimmy Carter, the isolated Hamas terrorist organization has expressed "hope" Sen. Barack Obama will win the presidential elections and "change" America's foreign policy.
    "We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections," Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas' top political adviser in the Gaza Strip, said in an exclusive interview with WND and with the John Batchelor Show on WABC Radio in New York.

    That doesn't sound like Hamas closing support to me.

    And Jihadwatch.com said

    “We don’t mind–actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance,” Yousef said in response to a question about the group’s willingness to meet with either of the Democratic presidential candidates.


    Mhm. And look why Hamas is not endorsing Obama. Because he made a pro Israel Speech. Up until that point they were supporting him. Meaning they were supporting: His National Defense policies, his foreign Diplomacy policies, and his military policies.

    If only he hated Israel too Hamas is thinking, then he'd be perfect.
    Careful what articles you use to prove a point with me, if they say the same thing I am saying, or they contradict what you are saying, I tend to use them against you. Ask Titan.

    You're good, but you completely missed my point

    or that the whole reason I am here is to say the Obama is not a terrorist, a black supremacist or a weeny :P

    Kudos for reading every link though

    Let me ask you this question: Does Obama seem threatening to you? Explain how, give me 6 paragraphs, use your feelings. Start now
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 13:42

    quater wrote:
    knssquad wrote:You would truly be surprised how people can be turn out

    who says he didn't disagree with his pastor? He infact denounced his pastor several times who just seems to want to feed off of Obama's publicity to sound his irrational views

    and don't act like America is some angel, quite a few selfish people live here, like in any other part of the world

    Wouldn't you think that when you donate to a charity, that all your money goes to the people they donate too?

    You're wrong

    40% of that amount of money is not donated at all, you would think this is just to let the charity scrape by. But many times, the leader of a charity has their own personal jets

    Have you ever heard of the author Kevin Trudeau? His books are quite interesting when it comes to political outlooks

    Meanwhile, America is bullied by giant companies that lobby, bascially corrupting the government.

    And this has existed for centuries, you can't act like Obama is the only one with quirks. The government is corrupt, Democrats and Republicans

    The first line is irrelavent woo!

    You do realize he took a month to finally denounce Obama right? After he made the SAME comments he had made for 20 years again. Not to mention his all to famous "I could no sooner denounce Uncle Wright then I could denounce the black Community" and a few weeks later "I denounce Pastor Wright! That is not the man I knew". Oh really?

    *Yawn*

    The whole charity thing is useless I agree. But you didn't prove me wrong. America does feed half the world's hungry, like I said, through charities. So what if a lot of Charities are screwed up. The point is we still give tons and feed half the world's poor. Did I say America is an angel? No. Do I think it's downright mean? No. And I am not even very rich am I? Well lookie there.

    Moving on, well duh. Charities are screwed up, Harriet Reid doesn't even pay taxes because he gives so much money to Charity, one of his own charities!

    Haha. You are such a hippy. You think Giant Companies run America? Then answer me this. Why doesn't Exxon have drilling rights in America? Their is oil here, and Exxon is asking to drill here. If the government is OH SO corrupt, why haven't they been giving the drilling rights? Yet instead, they have been taken to court, multiple times for playing unfairly. That doesn't sound like Giant Companies controlling everything to me. Why would giant companies take themselves to court?

    hehe, then answer this: How is tobacco still legal in America?

    Even Donald Trump was quoted say "All trading done at the highest levels is illegal. It's all insider trading."

    I take pride in being called a modern hippy, thank you

    Fact #1 : CBS refused to air a 30 second commerical that was critical of the Bush adminstration

    Fact #2 : Bill O'Reilly was quoted "The deception in the media is appaling."

    Free speech is under attack in America and has been for quite a while, even radio personalities have to appeal to their sponsors
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 13:49

    knssquad wrote:
    quater wrote:By the way Quad, did you even read some of your own links?

    According to World Net Daily, one of the links you posted:

    On the eve of a planned meeting with former President Jimmy Carter, the isolated Hamas terrorist organization has expressed "hope" Sen. Barack Obama will win the presidential elections and "change" America's foreign policy.
    "We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections," Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas' top political adviser in the Gaza Strip, said in an exclusive interview with WND and with the John Batchelor Show on WABC Radio in New York.

    That doesn't sound like Hamas closing support to me.

    And Jihadwatch.com said

    “We don’t mind–actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance,” Yousef said in response to a question about the group’s willingness to meet with either of the Democratic presidential candidates.


    Mhm. And look why Hamas is not endorsing Obama. Because he made a pro Israel Speech. Up until that point they were supporting him. Meaning they were supporting: His National Defense policies, his foreign Diplomacy policies, and his military policies.

    If only he hated Israel too Hamas is thinking, then he'd be perfect.
    Careful what articles you use to prove a point with me, if they say the same thing I am saying, or they contradict what you are saying, I tend to use them against you. Ask Titan.

    You're good, but you completely missed my point

    or that the whole reason I am here is to say the Obama is not a terrorist, a black supremacist or a weeny :P

    Kudos for reading every link though

    Let me ask you this question: Does Obama seem threatening to you? Explain how, give me 6 paragraphs, use your feelings. Start now

    I'm afraid I don't know when I get homework assignments from you.

    I read every link cause I was borderline interested in what you had to say. I didn't miss the point. He is connected to Terrorists. He was connected to Hamas in dirty money, and I have yet to hear you answer William Ayers.

    Do I think Obama is a terrorist connected black supremist still. Yes. Did I ever say he is a weeny, no. I always said he is to scary to be a weeny.

    As about the 6 paragraph thing....Yeah. Could I do it, very easily. Hm, but dear goodness if something just burns at me at the idea of doing what you say. But I will, because if you are doubting that it's possible. Here ya go. Plus it gives me an excuse to write a novel, she asked for it kids.

    My thesis is Obama is a scary man. He has accepted money from Hamas, and despite that I recently found out some of Hamas no longer supports him because he made a pro Israel speech, he is still scary scary. Why is he scary? Well let's see.

    Economically wise. What are some of his policies? He wishes to end President Bush's tax cuts, tax cuts that have saved an average family of 4 two thousand dollars. Oh he's good. I like that. He wishes to not only end our tax cuts, he wishes to incur some of the largest tax heists we have ever seen in America. Hm, not threatening at all. And this will, end a recession somehow. Okay, cause If I recall they usually end deppressions and stuff with Taxes, that's how Raegan did it. No wait, that's the opposite of what you do. Woah! That's strange. Hm, but no matter, you're right. No threat there.

    He plans on opening our healthcare to Universal Healthcare. That same healthcare that is failing so hard in Canada and European Nations Mr. Q? Well yes that's the same one. Well why does he want that, private hospitals are some of the best hospitals in the world aren't they Q? Well yes they are. So what is Obama thinking Mr. Q? I am not sure, but there is nothing threatening about it. No fear.

    Let's check his character. He went for 20 years to a Church where the pastor said "God **** America" And "Americans chickens are coming home" after 9/11. Oh, maybe he didn't notice. But, if he didn't notice these things, he is not very perceptive is he? Why would we want a non perceptive president. What about the time he said there were "55 states and they had 2 more to visit". Or the fact that the poor people in America are "Clinging to their guns and antipathy to those that differ from them". Um, let's not forget his wife. Do I think the fact he for so long refused to wear an American Flag Pendant, are good things? No. I kinda like to have a President that likes America, not one that is married to a gal who has "Never in her adult life been proud of America".

    Well no worries, it's not that big of a deal. He may be the most liberal democrat in a Democrat Congress, but I am sure he is not that bad. Don't ask me why the news media has still yet to really report his connection to William Ayers, I don't know why they wont look at it. Maybe they are to friendly with him? Naw! Hm now back to Obama's policies. During the Gang wars of Chicago, a Bill passed by Obama that would have reinstated the death penalty for people who kill others because of gangs. He refused to pass it and the gang wars got even worse. Question. You think a guy who wont stand up to Gangs will keep us safe from Terrorism? The gang wars and adding the death penalty would have been small and very GOOD in stopping them. And he stood idly by and said no.

    Have ya gotten the heebie Jeebies yet? Well I do. But the scariest is just coming. He has become a rockstar. And all for one reason. Obama was in 3rd place to a Clinton and Edwards dominating party. So when did Obama start coming through? A fake poll did it. In Iowa, the poll that started giving Obama all his momentum, was a poll that said Obama would win by 7 points. After that Obama became the big new thing. The poll lied, because republicans never supported obama like it said they would or tons of other things. But it didn't matter. That's right. He is being followed like a rockstar, and he is being practically worshipped. Yet people can't even tell you why Jim Johnson or other crooks and America Haters keep coming up in his repertoire of friends.

    “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history. The event itself is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance,”

    The Esteemed Reverand Jackson everyone.

    But this just tops the cake ladies and gents

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/06/06/notes060608.DTL&type=printable

    Creepy. Just creepy.

    Now I am not sure how you define 6 Paragraphs, and yes I could keep going, I suppose that was from the heart.
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 13:52

    knssquad wrote:
    quater wrote:
    knssquad wrote:You would truly be surprised how people can be turn out

    who says he didn't disagree with his pastor? He infact denounced his pastor several times who just seems to want to feed off of Obama's publicity to sound his irrational views

    and don't act like America is some angel, quite a few selfish people live here, like in any other part of the world

    Wouldn't you think that when you donate to a charity, that all your money goes to the people they donate too?

    You're wrong

    40% of that amount of money is not donated at all, you would think this is just to let the charity scrape by. But many times, the leader of a charity has their own personal jets

    Have you ever heard of the author Kevin Trudeau? His books are quite interesting when it comes to political outlooks

    Meanwhile, America is bullied by giant companies that lobby, bascially corrupting the government.

    And this has existed for centuries, you can't act like Obama is the only one with quirks. The government is corrupt, Democrats and Republicans

    The first line is irrelavent woo!

    You do realize he took a month to finally denounce Obama right? After he made the SAME comments he had made for 20 years again. Not to mention his all to famous "I could no sooner denounce Uncle Wright then I could denounce the black Community" and a few weeks later "I denounce Pastor Wright! That is not the man I knew". Oh really?

    *Yawn*

    The whole charity thing is useless I agree. But you didn't prove me wrong. America does feed half the world's hungry, like I said, through charities. So what if a lot of Charities are screwed up. The point is we still give tons and feed half the world's poor. Did I say America is an angel? No. Do I think it's downright mean? No. And I am not even very rich am I? Well lookie there.

    Moving on, well duh. Charities are screwed up, Harriet Reid doesn't even pay taxes because he gives so much money to Charity, one of his own charities!

    Haha. You are such a hippy. You think Giant Companies run America? Then answer me this. Why doesn't Exxon have drilling rights in America? Their is oil here, and Exxon is asking to drill here. If the government is OH SO corrupt, why haven't they been giving the drilling rights? Yet instead, they have been taken to court, multiple times for playing unfairly. That doesn't sound like Giant Companies controlling everything to me. Why would giant companies take themselves to court?

    hehe, then answer this: How is tobacco still legal in America?

    Even Donald Trump was quoted say "All trading done at the highest levels is illegal. It's all insider trading."

    I take pride in being called a modern hippy, thank you

    Fact #1 : CBS refused to air a 30 second commerical that was critical of the Bush adminstration

    Fact #2 : Bill O'Reilly was quoted "The deception in the media is appaling."

    Free speech is under attack in America and has been for quite a while, even radio personalities have to appeal to their sponsors

    I agree Free Speech is under attack. And I agree the Media is a deception machine. Don't ask me why CBS did it, maybe because it was not factual based?

    Hippies are useless.

    So you avoided my question about Exxon with a question.

    Well Tobbacco helps support schools with the taxes on them. Furthermore, is it the Government's right to tell Americans not to smoke? NO. So the way I see it, it should be legal. Why should the Government tell us we can't smoke. Now I myself hate Smoking, but people should be allowed to do it, if they are that retarded.
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 14:03

    mmm, nice essay by the way

    And I guess you are saying my father was retarded even though he quit

    But while tobacco did help form America, it's becoming more deadly

    Besides that, if Obama is so scary, then what do you describe as the perfect presidential candidate?
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 14:07

    knssquad wrote:mmm, nice essay by the way

    And I guess you are saying my father was retarded even though he quit

    But while tobacco did help form America, it's becoming more deadly

    Besides that, if Obama is so scary, then what do you describe as the perfect presidential candidate?

    The perfect Presidential Candidate already left the race. Come back Fred! Rudy and Mitt Were good Seconds.

    The perfect Presidential Candidate isn't in the race at the moment sadly.

    Moving on. Your dad was not smart for starting smoking I'm afraid. Now continuing it is a different matter, but the fact that he stopped smoking, says more about him to me then that he started. People who have the guts to stop smoking are strong people. Props to him.

    Sure Tobacco is deadly. But so are knives, so are guns, so are books if written drenched in lies. So? Is it the Government's right to tell us what we can and cannot do? NO.

    Thanks took me half an H to write my "essay" I suppose.

    Aw what happened? I thought I was out Exxaggerating like crazy, or that I was just up here Conspiring against the misinformed kids? That I am probably just a liar, a shrewd, you could easily take me down?
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    Post by knssquad Fri Jun 13 2008, 14:22

    quater wrote:
    knssquad wrote:mmm, nice essay by the way

    And I guess you are saying my father was retarded even though he quit

    But while tobacco did help form America, it's becoming more deadly

    Besides that, if Obama is so scary, then what do you describe as the perfect presidential candidate?

    The perfect Presidential Candidate already left the race. Come back Fred! Rudy and Mitt Were good Seconds.

    The perfect Presidential Candidate isn't in the race at the moment sadly.

    Moving on. Your dad was not smart for starting smoking I'm afraid. Now continuing it is a different matter, but the fact that he stopped smoking, says more about him to me then that he started. People who have the guts to stop smoking are strong people. Props to him.

    Sure Tobacco is deadly. But so are knives, so are guns, so are books if written drenched in lies. So? Is it the Government's right to tell us what we can and cannot do? NO.

    Thanks took me half an H to write my "essay" I suppose.

    Aw what happened? I thought I was out Exxaggerating like crazy, or that I was just up here Conspiring against the misinformed kids? That I am probably just a liar, a shrewd, you could easily take me down?

    ooh, do I sense confidence?

    also, if the relationship between William Ayers nd Obama was hidden, then why is it so easy to find on the internet or articles on the news

    Let's face it, the media seems to be giving the impression that it does not like Obama. Or else there wouldn't be so many articles out on the same thing

    Or the contraversy over McCain's policies being shaped by lobbying
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    Post by quater Fri Jun 13 2008, 14:31

    It is hidden. Tell me some points in the news, the actual Televised news, where they mention William Ayers? I only recall once, during a Democrat debate, when George Stefanopolis did it. And he was crucified for it.

    You think the Media doesn't like Obama. Is this the Cable Media or another media no one knows? I mean seriously, did you read that Chicago Sun Times Link I showed you? If you think the Media doesn't like Obama Quad, this debate is over the dunce cap is somewhere over there. Of course I am talking about TV Media. The online Media, which I don't consider Media, is something else. The New Media, sure, it hates Obama, because it is a Conservative Side. But the 99% of TV channels and Liberal blogs out there? All Obama.

    What about McCain? I don't recall having said much about him. If I remember my favorite Presidential campaign was for, Fred Thompson.

    Do you sense confidence? Are you just now feeling it? Since I first started posting I have had total confidence. Even after you "Exposed my horrible lie" With those links (Hard to be a lie if I never knew it), if you think I was not still totally confident in Obama being connected to Terrorism, and a black Supremist, well then your senses need sharpening. In fact, I am always Completely confident in my debates.

    I was able to confidently type up that essay no? And I have confidently answered every question every point you have sent me

    You have hardly done the same.

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