Summons

I would like to address the issue of Summoning creatures in the Battle Arena. Some believe that because of the current battle arena rules if one was to attack their opponent themselves as well as with their summoned creature than the opponent will only recieve that persons rank damage. Others would argue that because a summoned creature, although called forth by the summoner, is a seperate being all together than the summoner and so they should deal their own seperate damage. Personally i agree that since the summon is its own being than it should have its own attack as well as possibly its own defensive capability. Of course then the problem arises on how to regulate a summoned monster to prevent people from going overboard.

I havn't exactly come up with a solution for that problem but i do have an idea that may give us a start. That start is the Ninjutsu Stat points. In our current battle system having ninjutsu grants you no aid in the battle arena. So why not use them for Summoning creatures?

If anyone has anything to add please feel free.

Hmm....

That seems like a good idea...

I think though, that I'd be good to sacrifise some sort of health or evade for it or something like that, and each turn the summon stays there, it takes up -insert number here- of ninjustu points....

But I dunno, Nii-sama... Having summons... especially since a lot of our fighters are genin, seems a little overboard

Well we could require a person be chuunin+ in order to summon to begin with.

Why's that?

Naruto can summon a giant Toad and he's no Chuunin?

He's also a jinchuuriki and does not use his own chakra when he summons the majority of the time.

Alright I'll grant you that.

The point was really just that Genin can summon, but it doesn't matter really anyway.

I dont really have a problem with Genin being able to summon. It was just a suggestion to appease those who believe there should be some requirements in order to allow someone to summon.

I agree. Give the Chuunin an edge no big E.

What if we were to allow Summons to have an 50HP+ the number of Ninjutsu stat points a person has? And their attack power would be equal to a rank lower than the summoners own rank? (chuunin's summon would have the attack of a genin.) That way we could allow genin to summon but their summoned creature would only deal an extra 5 damage, so it would not grant much of an advantage.

Then why would one ever fight without summons? Or even use anything but summons?

I see your point. We could require a sacrifice of some sort on the user's part. HP maybe?

It'd make sense. Because otherwise it'd be nonsense to try and not use them.

I was thinking Evades myself.

Actually, that would probably work better. Not many people would be willing to give up evades just to deal a few extra points of damage.

Exactly so it'd mean you'd have to have quite a swing of Ninjutsu points to do it.

It'd add overall to strategies and be interesting and keep summoning down.

So how much would we get rid of?

I guess it would have to depend on rank. We have a calculation similar to the one we use to decide evades to begin with, or we could have a set amount (genin sacrifice 5, chuunin 3, etc.)

I was also thinking that maybe, since 50HP is already quite a bit when you consider that few people can deal over 10 damage, we could do 50HP+half of the number of Ninjtutsu stat points. If we have to go lower we could.

Sounds about right to me.

Can they summon more then one if they can manage it? Can the summon do jutsus?

I suppose if they would be willing and are capable of sacrificing more evades they should be allowed to.

And yes i believe a summon should be allowed to do jutsu, since no matter how they attack, they will only be able to deal damage equal to a rank lower than their summoner.

Do you think it would be easier to have a formula based on Ninjutsu to determine the sacrifice, or just have a set number of evades depending on rank?

I'd say just let it be ranks. To keep it simple.

Alright so, a sacrifice of 5 evades for genin, 4 for chuunin, 3 for Jounin, 2 for sennin/kage, sound good?

Works fine for me ^_^

Yay glad we got it all cleared up.

Nice we have summons now!

Yep.

And Jose I haven't said it but you have a manbeast ava.

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thanks man
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Des and i are about to have a match in which we will probably test out the summon system. Afterward we can make whatever adjustments are deemed neccesary.

Could one of you Kage add the summons to the battling system or is PF the only one capable of doing so?

Naw, I'll do it if Jose doesn't want too.