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    Are you a winner or a loser?

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    Post by quater Fri Oct 09 2009, 17:12

    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/31/1027926917671.html

    Taken from this website:

    The name of the game is not always what it seems to be, Sean Gardiner writes from New York.

    One son was named Loser, the other Winner.

    One became a policeman and was eventually promoted to detective.

    The other fell into the life of a small-time crook, racking up at least 31 arrests before being jailed for two years.

    But for the brothers Lane it was not a case of their unique names sealing their fates. "I went a totally separate route right from the start," said Loser Lane, 41, a detective in the South Bronx.

    Loser, a star student and athlete, went on scholarship to an elite prep school, on to Lafayette College in Pennsylvania, and then joined the force.

    Winner's life has gone the other way. Now 44, Winner last month completed a two-year jail sentence for breaking into a car. He is living in a homeless shelter in upstate New York, shuttling back and forth between it and the city trying to get his life on track.

    Why did he commit so many crimes? "It's just some situations I got in," Winner said.

    Loser said of his brother: "Most of the crimes are minor crimes. He's just kooky, not a heavy drinker, some domestic violence problems, but was never a heavy drinker, never into drugs ... He's just not all there, I think."

    The brothers rarely see each other, though Winner will phone Loser when he is short of money, but they are no longer close. "I'm a cop," said Loser, who is known as Lou on the job. "And I have a way with me, I don't tolerate a lot."

    The Lane boys ran in the same circles while growing up in public housing in Harlem, where their names never seemed to arouse curiosity or ridicule from the neighbourhood kids.

    "When you're young you don't know that it's a bad name, and by the time you hit grade school, everybody knows you. It was a regular thing," Loser Lane said.

    It helped that Loser was the youngest of eight brothers and sisters and that he was a natural athlete, admired by the other kids for his on-field achievements.

    The story of how Loser got his name is simple. The day he was born, their late father, Robert, asked his daughter what to name the baby. "My dad comes home and asks my oldest sister what to name me and she said, 'Well, we've got a Winner, why don't we have a Loser?' And there you go."

    While Loser's friends had no problem calling him by his name, his teachers and other adults "couldn't bring themselves to call me Loser", so he became Lou.


    I couldn't even comment on it. Too weird. What do you think?
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    Post by CLAIRVOYANTdisease Fri Oct 09 2009, 17:16

    Thats so mean O:
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    Post by Always-Abby Fri Oct 09 2009, 17:20

    Already commented on this xPPP
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    Post by Azarni_Rin Fri Oct 09 2009, 18:17

    very interesting....ironic, no?
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    Post by quater Fri Oct 09 2009, 18:22

    It just shows you can't judge things. Or something. I'm sure there are lots of morals in this one story to be had.
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    Post by Azarni_Rin Fri Oct 09 2009, 18:24

    very much
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    Post by quater Fri Oct 09 2009, 20:35

    Its weird, though. Very weird.
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    Post by 3.2.1.0.84.NG! Fri Oct 09 2009, 20:49

    Irony bites. And in this case, it bit hard.

    I wanna be Loser.
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    Post by quater Fri Oct 09 2009, 21:01

    I voted to name all my children: Failure, Obesity, Ugly, moronic. But Abby won't let me.
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    Post by 3.2.1.0.84.NG! Fri Oct 09 2009, 21:22

    xDDDD That would be a very fun way to grow up.
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    Post by Azarni_Rin Sat Oct 10 2009, 11:24

    ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Sat Oct 10 2009, 11:30

    Azarni_Rin wrote:ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
    I'm doing that.
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    Post by Azarni_Rin Sat Oct 10 2009, 11:37

    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
    I'm doing that.
    XD seven children, wrath should be the oldest cause it just seems right XD or pride...envy could be the youngest XD
    my sin is sloth and probably pride XD
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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Sat Oct 10 2009, 11:45

    Azarni_Rin wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
    I'm doing that.
    Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 seven children, wrath should be the oldest cause it just seems right Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 or pride...envy could be the youngest Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    my sin is sloth and probably pride Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    I think I've committed each sin at least twice, if not more ^_^;;

    Lust and Envy should be girls, haha.
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    Post by amaterasu Sat Oct 10 2009, 12:18

    Interesting story.


    I think it gives a good thing to think about!
    I like it
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    Post by Azarni_Rin Sat Oct 10 2009, 14:00

    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
    I'm doing that.
    Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 seven children, wrath should be the oldest cause it just seems right Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 or pride...envy could be the youngest Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    my sin is sloth and probably pride Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    I think I've committed each sin at least twice, if not more ^_^;;

    Lust and Envy should be girls, haha.
    lust is a girl! from FMA!
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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Sat Oct 10 2009, 18:45

    Azarni_Rin wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
    I'm doing that.
    Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 seven children, wrath should be the oldest cause it just seems right Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 or pride...envy could be the youngest Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    my sin is sloth and probably pride Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    I think I've committed each sin at least twice, if not more ^_^;;

    Lust and Envy should be girls, haha.
    lust is a girl! from FMA!
    Indeed. ^_^;;
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    Post by quater Sat Oct 10 2009, 18:56

    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
    I'm doing that.
    Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 seven children, wrath should be the oldest cause it just seems right Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 or pride...envy could be the youngest Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    my sin is sloth and probably pride Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    I think I've committed each sin at least twice, if not more ^_^;;

    Lust and Envy should be girls, haha.

    Everyone sins. ^_^

    And we all sin a lot.

    I like Gluttony and Greed from FMA. They are my favs.
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    Post by Azarni_Rin Sat Oct 10 2009, 18:57

    ah, but what's your greatest sin, eh, Q?
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    Post by quater Sat Oct 10 2009, 18:58

    Azarni_Rin wrote:ah, but what's your greatest sin, eh, Q?

    I don't know? To fly Being too Qool? Peace
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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Sat Oct 10 2009, 18:59

    quater wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
    I'm doing that.
    Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 seven children, wrath should be the oldest cause it just seems right Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 or pride...envy could be the youngest Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    my sin is sloth and probably pride Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    I think I've committed each sin at least twice, if not more ^_^;;

    Lust and Envy should be girls, haha.

    Everyone sins. ^_^

    And we all sin a lot.

    I like Gluttony and Greed from FMA. They are my favs.
    I've noticed.

    Greed was the shiznit.
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    Post by quater Sat Oct 10 2009, 19:00

    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    quater wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:
    KarateKeyaQ wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ooo! what if someone named their kids after the seven sins?
    sloth, lust, gluttony, greed, pride, envy, and wrath! :O
    I'm doing that.
    Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 seven children, wrath should be the oldest cause it just seems right Are you a winner or a loser? 390978 or pride...envy could be the youngest Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    my sin is sloth and probably pride Are you a winner or a loser? 390978
    I think I've committed each sin at least twice, if not more ^_^;;

    Lust and Envy should be girls, haha.

    Everyone sins. ^_^

    And we all sin a lot.

    I like Gluttony and Greed from FMA. They are my favs.
    I've noticed.

    Greed was the shiznit.

    Shoot I thanked your post instead of quoting it -_-
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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Sat Oct 10 2009, 19:01

    I WIN! *refer to sig for mental picture of KKQ*
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    Post by Azarni_Rin Sat Oct 10 2009, 19:03

    quater wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ah, but what's your greatest sin, eh, Q?

    I don't know? Are you a winner or a loser? 365684 Being too Qool? Are you a winner or a loser? 599357
    XD pride then? XD
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    Post by quater Sat Oct 10 2009, 19:11

    Azarni_Rin wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Azarni_Rin wrote:ah, but what's your greatest sin, eh, Q?

    I don't know? Are you a winner or a loser? 365684 Being too Qool? Are you a winner or a loser? 599357
    XD pride then? XD

    I do not know! How about you?

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