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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:14

    shugo wrote:
    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:ok here you go heres the answer


    If we suggest that what the man says is true, then we end in
    contradiction: if the man’s claim that he is lying is true, then he is
    lying, in which case what he says is false.
    If we suggest that what the man says is false, then we are no better
    off: if the man’s claim that he is lying is false, then he is not
    lying, in which case what he says is true.
    Both answers give rise to logical contradictions; it cannot be the
    case either that what the man says is true or that what the man says is
    false.
    The Liar Paradox is sometimes referred to as “Epimenides’ Paradox”,
    after the sixth-century B.C. Cretan who asserted that all Cretans are
    liars. The apostle Paul makes reference to Epimenides in Titus 1:12,
    writing, “It was one of them, their very own prophet who said, ‘Cretans
    are always liars, vicious brutes, lazy gluttons.’”
    Epimenides’ statement alone does not give rise to a paradox. What he
    says can’t be true, for if Cretans are always liars, and he is a
    Cretan, then he must be lying, in which case his statement is false.
    His statement could be false however; it could be that Epimenides is
    dishonest but that not all Cretans are liars.
    Paul, though, excludes this dissolution of the paradox, proceeding
    to say in the following verse, “This testimony is true.” This leaves
    Paul asserting that Epimenides truly said that he (and all other
    Cretans) are liars, which takes us back to Eubulides’ paradox above;
    Paul cannot be right.
    Omg, what!? Jeez, this stuff hurts my brain. xDDD

    crazy huh whats worse is the paradox of divide by zero
    Oh! Oh! Tell me about that one, I'm curious. How can you divide by zero?
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:15

    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes

    give me mroe


    Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
    of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
    morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
    not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
    nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
    In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
    for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
    at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
    passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
    exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
    no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
    have duration.
    The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
    world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
    be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
    exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
    day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
    it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
    only of the gap between them, the present.
    How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
    A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__O

    your starting to make more sense than gaara
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:15

    ............................
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:15

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:...... omg omg I got a new comp!!! good bye to slow internet and stupid crazyness XD

    yay ^^
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:16

    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:ok here you go heres the answer


    If we suggest that what the man says is true, then we end in
    contradiction: if the man’s claim that he is lying is true, then he is
    lying, in which case what he says is false.
    If we suggest that what the man says is false, then we are no better
    off: if the man’s claim that he is lying is false, then he is not
    lying, in which case what he says is true.
    Both answers give rise to logical contradictions; it cannot be the
    case either that what the man says is true or that what the man says is
    false.
    The Liar Paradox is sometimes referred to as “Epimenides’ Paradox”,
    after the sixth-century B.C. Cretan who asserted that all Cretans are
    liars. The apostle Paul makes reference to Epimenides in Titus 1:12,
    writing, “It was one of them, their very own prophet who said, ‘Cretans
    are always liars, vicious brutes, lazy gluttons.’”
    Epimenides’ statement alone does not give rise to a paradox. What he
    says can’t be true, for if Cretans are always liars, and he is a
    Cretan, then he must be lying, in which case his statement is false.
    His statement could be false however; it could be that Epimenides is
    dishonest but that not all Cretans are liars.
    Paul, though, excludes this dissolution of the paradox, proceeding
    to say in the following verse, “This testimony is true.” This leaves
    Paul asserting that Epimenides truly said that he (and all other
    Cretans) are liars, which takes us back to Eubulides’ paradox above;
    Paul cannot be right.
    Omg, what!? Jeez, this stuff hurts my brain. xDDD

    crazy huh whats worse is the paradox of divide by zero
    Oh! Oh! Tell me about that one, I'm curious. How can you divide by zero?

    its not possible
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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:16

    shugo wrote:
    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes

    give me mroe


    Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
    of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
    morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
    not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
    nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
    In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
    for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
    at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
    passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
    exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
    no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
    have duration.
    The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
    world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
    be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
    exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
    day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
    it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
    only of the gap between them, the present.
    How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
    A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__O

    your starting to make more sense than gaara
    :D Good thing?
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    Post by jake989 Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:17

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:Money!


    hu what where... give me the money!!! Pay Up

    ...NO!
    Tis mine!

    not for long Evil Plan

    For long yes!
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:17

    soooo this coolnocity bar thing .... *sigh* when I saw in I laughed ..... seems everything is a popularity contest these days XD


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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:18

    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:Money!


    hu what where... give me the money!!! Pay Up

    ...NO!
    Tis mine!

    not for long Evil Plan

    For long yes!

    ...... *evil laugh*
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:18

    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes

    give me mroe


    Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
    of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
    morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
    not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
    nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
    In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
    for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
    at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
    passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
    exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
    no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
    have duration.
    The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
    world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
    be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
    exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
    day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
    it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
    only of the gap between them, the present.
    How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
    A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__O

    your starting to make more sense than gaara
    :D Good thing?

    yeah your closer
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:19

    Gaara of the Sand wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes

    give me mroe


    Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
    of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
    morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
    not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
    nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
    In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
    for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
    at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
    passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
    exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
    no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
    have duration.
    The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
    world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
    be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
    exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
    day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
    it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
    only of the gap between them, the present.
    How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?

    well, the world and people exists

    but time doesn't

    time is a man-made creation

    any man-made creation has it's faults

    therefore time is just showing where the position of the sun is

    non-existance is the fault in time
    but we are talking about time not the world
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:19

    ICE CREAM ....
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:19

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:soooo this coolnocity bar thing .... *sigh* when I saw in I laughed ..... seems everything is a popularity contest these days XD

    yup
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    Post by Gaara of the Sand Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:19

    shugo wrote:
    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes

    give me mroe


    Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
    of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
    morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
    not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
    nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
    In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
    for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
    at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
    passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
    exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
    no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
    have duration.
    The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
    world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
    be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
    exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
    day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
    it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
    only of the gap between them, the present.
    How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
    A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__O

    your starting to make more sense than gaara

    that was exactly my point

    time does not exist

    therefore there is no

    past
    present
    or future
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:20

    Gaara of the Sand wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    NejiFan wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes

    give me mroe


    Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
    of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
    morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
    not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
    nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
    In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
    for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
    at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
    passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
    exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
    no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
    have duration.
    The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
    world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
    be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
    exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
    day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
    it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
    only of the gap between them, the present.
    How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
    A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__O

    your starting to make more sense than gaara

    that was exactly my point

    time does not exist

    therefore there is no

    past
    present
    or future

    so your saying that

    Clearly the present does not last as long as a minute. A minute
    consists of different temporal parts. First comes its beginning, then
    its middle, and then its end. Each of its parts occurs at a different
    time. If its beginning is present then its middle and end are future.
    If its middle is present, then its beginning is past and its end is
    future. If its end is present then its beginning and middle are past.
    If the present lasted as long as a minute then it would consist of
    past, present, and future elements, but that would be absurd; the
    present must be wholly present.
    The same, though, could be said if the present were of shorter
    duration, lasting only a second, or even only a nano-second. In either
    case, the present would have temporal parts: a beginning, a middle, and
    an end. If its beginning were present then its middle and end would be
    future. If its middle were present, then its beginning would be past
    and its end would be future. If its end were present then its beginning
    and middle would be past. If the present has any duration at all then
    it consists of past, present, and future elements, but that, as I said
    before, would be absurd.
    The present, then, has no duration; there is no gap between the past
    and the future. It has already been seen, though, that to say that
    something has no duration is to say that it does not exist. The
    present, then, like the past and the future, does not exist.
    If there is neither past, nor present, nor future, though, then what
    is there? Nothing. Nothing exists at all. Universal nihilism is true.
    this is true?
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    Post by Gaara of the Sand Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:20

    shugo wrote:
    Gaara of the Sand wrote:
    shugo wrote:
    Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes

    give me mroe


    Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
    of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
    morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
    not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
    nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
    In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
    for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
    at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
    passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
    exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
    no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
    have duration.
    The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
    world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
    be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
    exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
    day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
    it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
    only of the gap between them, the present.
    How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?

    well, the world and people exists

    but time doesn't

    time is a man-made creation

    any man-made creation has it's faults

    therefore time is just showing where the position of the sun is

    non-existance is the fault in time
    but we are talking about time not the world

    twas an exanple of what really exists
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    Post by jake989 Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:20

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:Money!


    hu what where... give me the money!!! Pay Up

    ...NO!
    Tis mine!

    not for long Evil Plan

    For long yes!

    ...... *evil laugh*

    *Pokes*
    P:
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:21

    ....................... *starts building a sand castle*
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:22

    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:Money!


    hu what where... give me the money!!! Pay Up

    ...NO!
    Tis mine!

    not for long Evil Plan

    For long yes!

    ...... *evil laugh*

    *Pokes*
    P:

    hey you poked me ..... I\'m Dead
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    Post by Sayomi Hatake Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:23

    I love how the "im dead" icon is scratching his butt XD
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:23

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:....................... *starts building a sand castle*
    *watches*
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:23

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:I love how the "im dead" icon is scratching his butt XD


    yeha XD
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    Post by Shugo Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:23

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu-dTXxsaIo&feature=related

    divide by zero
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    Post by jake989 Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:25

    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:
    Sayomi Hatake wrote:
    jake989 wrote:Money!


    hu what where... give me the money!!! Pay Up

    ...NO!
    Tis mine!

    not for long Evil Plan

    For long yes!

    ...... *evil laugh*

    *Pokes*
    P:

    hey you poked me ..... I\'m Dead

    *GLOMPAGE*
    Yeha, I know
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    Post by KarateKeyaQ Thu Jun 26 2008, 02:25

    shugo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu-dTXxsaIo&feature=related

    divide by zero
    XD XD

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