Oh! Oh! Tell me about that one, I'm curious. How can you divide by zero?shugo wrote:NejiFan wrote:Omg, what!? Jeez, this stuff hurts my brain. xDDDshugo wrote:ok here you go heres the answer
If we suggest that what the man says is true, then we end in
contradiction: if the man’s claim that he is lying is true, then he is
lying, in which case what he says is false.
If we suggest that what the man says is false, then we are no better
off: if the man’s claim that he is lying is false, then he is not
lying, in which case what he says is true.
Both answers give rise to logical contradictions; it cannot be the
case either that what the man says is true or that what the man says is
false.
The Liar Paradox is sometimes referred to as “Epimenides’ Paradox”,
after the sixth-century B.C. Cretan who asserted that all Cretans are
liars. The apostle Paul makes reference to Epimenides in Titus 1:12,
writing, “It was one of them, their very own prophet who said, ‘Cretans
are always liars, vicious brutes, lazy gluttons.’”
Epimenides’ statement alone does not give rise to a paradox. What he
says can’t be true, for if Cretans are always liars, and he is a
Cretan, then he must be lying, in which case his statement is false.
His statement could be false however; it could be that Epimenides is
dishonest but that not all Cretans are liars.
Paul, though, excludes this dissolution of the paradox, proceeding
to say in the following verse, “This testimony is true.” This leaves
Paul asserting that Epimenides truly said that he (and all other
Cretans) are liars, which takes us back to Eubulides’ paradox above;
Paul cannot be right.
crazy huh whats worse is the paradox of divide by zero
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NejiFan wrote:A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__Oshugo wrote:Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes
give me mroe
Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
have duration.
The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
only of the gap between them, the present.
How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
your starting to make more sense than gaara
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Sayomi Hatake wrote:...... omg omg I got a new comp!!! good bye to slow internet and stupid crazyness
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NejiFan wrote:Oh! Oh! Tell me about that one, I'm curious. How can you divide by zero?shugo wrote:NejiFan wrote:Omg, what!? Jeez, this stuff hurts my brain. xDDDshugo wrote:ok here you go heres the answer
If we suggest that what the man says is true, then we end in
contradiction: if the man’s claim that he is lying is true, then he is
lying, in which case what he says is false.
If we suggest that what the man says is false, then we are no better
off: if the man’s claim that he is lying is false, then he is not
lying, in which case what he says is true.
Both answers give rise to logical contradictions; it cannot be the
case either that what the man says is true or that what the man says is
false.
The Liar Paradox is sometimes referred to as “Epimenides’ Paradox”,
after the sixth-century B.C. Cretan who asserted that all Cretans are
liars. The apostle Paul makes reference to Epimenides in Titus 1:12,
writing, “It was one of them, their very own prophet who said, ‘Cretans
are always liars, vicious brutes, lazy gluttons.’”
Epimenides’ statement alone does not give rise to a paradox. What he
says can’t be true, for if Cretans are always liars, and he is a
Cretan, then he must be lying, in which case his statement is false.
His statement could be false however; it could be that Epimenides is
dishonest but that not all Cretans are liars.
Paul, though, excludes this dissolution of the paradox, proceeding
to say in the following verse, “This testimony is true.” This leaves
Paul asserting that Epimenides truly said that he (and all other
Cretans) are liars, which takes us back to Eubulides’ paradox above;
Paul cannot be right.
crazy huh whats worse is the paradox of divide by zero
its not possible
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:D Good thing?shugo wrote:NejiFan wrote:A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__Oshugo wrote:Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes
give me mroe
Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
have duration.
The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
only of the gap between them, the present.
How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
your starting to make more sense than gaara
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Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Money!
hu what where... give me the money!!!
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Tis mine!
not for long
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soooo this coolnocity bar thing .... *sigh* when I saw in I laughed ..... seems everything is a popularity contest these days
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jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Money!
hu what where... give me the money!!!
...NO!
Tis mine!
not for long
For long yes!
...... *evil laugh*
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NejiFan wrote::D Good thing?shugo wrote:NejiFan wrote:A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__Oshugo wrote:Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes
give me mroe
Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
have duration.
The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
only of the gap between them, the present.
How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
your starting to make more sense than gaara
yeah your closer
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but we are talking about time not the worldGaara of the Sand wrote:shugo wrote:Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes
give me mroe
Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
have duration.
The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
only of the gap between them, the present.
How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
well, the world and people exists
but time doesn't
time is a man-made creation
any man-made creation has it's faults
therefore time is just showing where the position of the sun is
non-existance is the fault in time
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Sayomi Hatake wrote:soooo this coolnocity bar thing .... *sigh* when I saw in I laughed ..... seems everything is a popularity contest these days
yup
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shugo wrote:NejiFan wrote:A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__Oshugo wrote:Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes
give me mroe
Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
have duration.
The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
only of the gap between them, the present.
How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
your starting to make more sense than gaara
that was exactly my point
time does not exist
therefore there is no
past
present
or future
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Gaara of the Sand wrote:shugo wrote:NejiFan wrote:A never ending gap maybe? But if thats true, does that mean that the present does not exist either? O__Oshugo wrote:Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes
give me mroe
Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
have duration.
The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
only of the gap between them, the present.
How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
your starting to make more sense than gaara
that was exactly my point
time does not exist
therefore there is no
past
present
or future
so your saying that
Clearly the present does not last as long as a minute. A minute
consists of different temporal parts. First comes its beginning, then
its middle, and then its end. Each of its parts occurs at a different
time. If its beginning is present then its middle and end are future.
If its middle is present, then its beginning is past and its end is
future. If its end is present then its beginning and middle are past.
If the present lasted as long as a minute then it would consist of
past, present, and future elements, but that would be absurd; the
present must be wholly present.
The same, though, could be said if the present were of shorter
duration, lasting only a second, or even only a nano-second. In either
case, the present would have temporal parts: a beginning, a middle, and
an end. If its beginning were present then its middle and end would be
future. If its middle were present, then its beginning would be past
and its end would be future. If its end were present then its beginning
and middle would be past. If the present has any duration at all then
it consists of past, present, and future elements, but that, as I said
before, would be absurd.
The present, then, has no duration; there is no gap between the past
and the future. It has already been seen, though, that to say that
something has no duration is to say that it does not exist. The
present, then, like the past and the future, does not exist.
If there is neither past, nor present, nor future, though, then what
is there? Nothing. Nothing exists at all. Universal nihilism is true.
this is true?
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shugo wrote:but we are talking about time not the worldGaara of the Sand wrote:shugo wrote:Gaara of the Sand wrote:i'm interested in these parodoxes
give me mroe
Nihilism is the view that nothing exists. There are different kinds
of nihilism; one can be a moral nihilist, for instance, holding that
morality does not exist, or a religious nihilist, holding that God does
not exist. The problem of the specious present supports a universal
nihilism, the view that nothing whatsoever exists.
In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist
for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time
at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also
passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all. Unicorns
exist for no time at all; so do square circles. Things that exist for
no time at all don’t exist. In order for something to exist it must
have duration.
The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the
world. Perhaps the past once existed, and perhaps its effects can still
be seen in the world today, but the past doesn’t exist now; if it
exists now, then where is it? And perhaps the future will exist one
day, but it doesn’t exist yet; again, if it exists now, then where is
it? The past and the future clearly do not exist; the universe consists
only of the gap between them, the present.
How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
well, the world and people exists
but time doesn't
time is a man-made creation
any man-made creation has it's faults
therefore time is just showing where the position of the sun is
non-existance is the fault in time
twas an exanple of what really exists
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Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Money!
hu what where... give me the money!!!
...NO!
Tis mine!
not for long
For long yes!
...... *evil laugh*
*Pokes*
P:
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jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Money!
hu what where... give me the money!!!
...NO!
Tis mine!
not for long
For long yes!
...... *evil laugh*
*Pokes*
P:
hey you poked me .....
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*watches*Sayomi Hatake wrote:....................... *starts building a sand castle*
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Sayomi Hatake wrote:I love how the "im dead" icon is scratching his butt
yeha
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu-dTXxsaIo&feature=related
divide by zero
divide by zero
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Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Sayomi Hatake wrote:jake989 wrote:Money!
hu what where... give me the money!!!
...NO!
Tis mine!
not for long
For long yes!
...... *evil laugh*
*Pokes*
P:
hey you poked me .....
*GLOMPAGE*
Yeha, I know
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